Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-23 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Tom, We've seen a very long and exhaustive debate and review on SRH in the 6man WG. I am not sure how bringing that up helps answer the questions raised during the CRH adoption. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Tom Herbert Sent: 22 May 2020 21:05 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketan

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-23 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Joel. I believe the focus of the adoption call is CRH and that too in the context outside the SRm6. So I am not trying to debate SRH or SRv6 at this point - we can do that separately not to mix things up. I am looking for explanation of the "other ways" that CRH can be used (i.e. those outs

[spring] Reply: RE: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Chengli (Cheng Li)
Hi Ron, Thanks for your reply. I finally get that CRH only support steering packet along a path. But I am still curious that how to support a specific function/behavior at the specific node by using CRH. Can you please explain that? Since this is a very basic function we want in the network. S

Re: [spring] How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Ron Bonica
Cheng, The CRH is a building block. It has exactly one function. That is, to steer a packet along its delivery path. The CRH does not attempt to deliver parameters or metadata to service function instances. It relies on other mechanisms. One possibility is a destination options header that pre

Re: [spring] How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
Chengli (Cheng Li) wrote on 23/05/2020 18:27: Sure, you are right, we can use CRH and NSH, but personally, I don't think this is a good idea. As an operator, I agree - this sounds like a foolish thing to do. Fortunately, both CRH and NSH processing are disabled by default. I.e. this is only

Re: [spring] How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Chengli (Cheng Li)
Hi Joel, Sure, you are right, we can use CRH and NSH, but personally, I don't think this is a good idea. CRH introduce the mapping table to the nodes, and NSH introduce per-SFC/flow mapping state again, it is not we want in source routing. We want to maintain the states on the edge nodes only

Re: [spring] How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Joel M. Halpern
there are a number of Internet Drafts describing a range of ways of using SFC NSH with MPLS. The same choices appear to be available with CRH. If folks are interested, once CRH progresses, it should be a simple task to document that. Yours, Joel On 5/23/2020 12:59 PM, Chengli (Cheng Li) wro

Re: [spring] How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-23 Thread Chengli (Cheng Li)
Hi Ron, Thanks for your reply. Regarding NSH, are you saying to use CRH as a tunnel transport encapsulation between two SFF nodes? Or we can use a single CRH for steering packet through all the SFF nodes that the NSH packet should visit? Regarding using the first DOH, how to do that without th