RE: Factory Mutual Data Sheet 2.0 - Sprinkler Orientation and Spacing

2012-05-23 Thread bcasterline
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RE: Factory Mutual Data Sheet 2.0 - Sprinkler Orientation and Spacing

2012-05-23 Thread Russell & Carol Gregory
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RE: Article on Velocity

2012-05-23 Thread Brad Casterline
Thanks Roland. I found the article enjoyable and informative. I understand what you mean now by 'self limiting'-- who needs human limitation of velocity?- the physics has that covered! The article also inspires me to broaden the scope of test cases. thanks again, brad ___

RE: Factory Mutual Data Sheet 2.0 - Sprinkler Orientation and Spacing

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Sornsin
Damien: As Joe Hankins, formerly of FM, has repeatedly stated, the FM documents are intended for use on FM projects with the assistance as necessary of the FM Reps. They do not claim their data sheets are ready to be used in all cases as prescriptive documents. THAT is their out: 'get insured

RE: Hydraulic calcs for back-flow devices;

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Tysinger
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RE: Factory Mutual Data Sheet 2.0 - Sprinkler Orientation and Spacing

2012-05-23 Thread Damien Shannon
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Re: Hydraulic calcs for back-flow devices;

2012-05-23 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: Hydraulic calcs for back-flow devices;

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Tysinger
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RE: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4

2012-05-23 Thread Damien Shannon
Cheers Brad. I wasn't previously aware of the EBs until recently when the EB 04-12 changed our options for use with EC spks in a HC3 while dealing with an FM project. While discussing the changes and enquired about where and what these EBs were, I got the impression from the FM rep that these were

Re: Hydraulic calcs for back-flow devices;

2012-05-23 Thread Ron Greenman
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Article on Velocity

2012-05-23 Thread Roland Huggins
go to: http://www.firesprinkler.org/techservices/articles/watervelocity.html Roland On May 23, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Brad Casterline wrote: Roland, is there a link to, or a pdf of your article? -Original Message- From: Roland Huggins [mailto:rhugg...@firesprinkler.org] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4

2012-05-23 Thread Brad Casterline
Roland, is there a link to, or a pdf of your article? -Original Message- From: Roland Huggins [mailto:rhugg...@firesprinkler.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:41 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4 I did an evaluation (and article) on a comp

Hydraulic calcs for back-flow devices;

2012-05-23 Thread Douglas Hicks
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Re: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4

2012-05-23 Thread Roland Huggins
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RE: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4

2012-05-23 Thread Brad Casterline
Damien, the EB's are available on FM's site- they are at the top of the particular Data Sheet they relate to. Mike, I was not aware of Darcy for 30 ft/sec or greater. I think an FM engineer would accept Darcy for the whole set, with 62.4 lb/ft3 for the weight density, and 1.01 centipoise for the vi

Re: this one sounds ugly

2012-05-23 Thread John Drucker
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Factory Mutual Data Sheet 2.0 - Sprinkler Orientation and Spacing

2012-05-23 Thread Russell & Carol Gregory
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RE: Factory Mutual 1.2 or 1.4

2012-05-23 Thread Damien Shannon
Not related to the 1.2/1.4 topic, but on the evolution of FM datasheetd, I just recently became aware, that as well as the Datasheets, FM also come out with 'Engineering Bulletins' which are meant to take effect upon publication. These Engineering Bulletins are not available on the FM website. From