Re: Dorm sprinklers

Yes, if you can make the case for Dwelling Unit, then that works perfect. Since the bathrooms are full height walls to ceiling, each one needs its own sprinkler. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com

RE: Dorm sprinklers

So the building is a L shape with elevator lobby at the corner. Along the wings are set of sleeping units then a set of group bathrooms and a living room/study area. Then more units. I re-read the definition for Dwelling unit as you suggest Travis and my take way was that all the areas could be co

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

All, I was asking the question based on information given me by one of my trainee designers (I was also showing him how to use the forum since I'm not always going to be around). Dug into it a little further and I think we have solved the problem. As far as the crown molding is concerned, it a

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

Tyco also has a guide TFP490 (Dec 2015) that has several diagrams for sidewall sprinklers throwing across and down slope. I have never heard of a sidewall that is listed to throw up a slope. Matt ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.fi

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

That's because up to a pitch of 2:12 is considered a horizontal ceiling. Steve L. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:20 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Cabinets Against

Re: Cabinets Against a Wall

If less than 2 in 12 then it's flat, not sloped. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Brian Harris wrote: > If memory serves me correctly you can slope uphill if the pitch does not > exceed 2:12 > > > > *Brian Harris, CET* > > BVS Systems Inc. > > bvssytemsinc.com > > > >

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

Semantics. :) Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:21 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: R

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

The tyco sheets from 2010 include cross-slope diagrams. Those were removed in the 2014 data sheets. I figured it was because of the addition of the 'sloped ceiling' section in 13R and D. Matt From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyto

Re: Cabinets Against a Wall

Yes, but that is considered flat for NFPA purposes so there is no up or down slope in a "flat" ceiling :-) Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com http://www.mfpdesign.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/M

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

If memory serves me correctly you can slope uphill if the pitch does not exceed 2:12 Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET Sent: Tuesday, March 07,

Re: Cabinets Against a Wall

I always thought it was cross slope and down, but never up. Has that changed? Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com http://www.mfpdesign.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Se

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

I didn't get that impression at all, so perhaps it's still a little too obscure. Is it the intent that residential sidewalls can be arranged so they discharge cross-slope and up-slope? I don't think so ... SML From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

Steve, I got the impression NFPA13d 2016 8.1.1 was meant to deal with both pendant and sidewall sprinklers. The picture shows only pendants, but it is in a section separate from the pendant/sidewall positioning sections. Section 10.2 also makes several references to general and sidewall spacing

Re: Cabinets Against a Wall

If I'm picturing this right can you (meaning the carpenter) furr the wall out above the cabinets the extra two inches. Or, if the cabinets are at either side of the ceiling that runs parallel why can't you use pendants? Or, if they're along the wall with the slope and you can't use pendants aren't

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

Sloped ceiling? Can a sidewall be oriented so it discharges down-slope? You comment sent me scurrying to our tech data library and also to NFPA 13D and 13. Both standards are mute regarding the positioning of residential horizontal sidewall sprinklers on/under sloped ceilings. Viking tech d

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

I don't know that the crown molding would count, code says cabinet not over 12". Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behal

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

This a sloped ceiling area, with the ceiling being attached directly to the underside of the joists. No space to run pendants in a conditioned area. Richard Mote Design Manager [http://www.rowesprinkler.com/emailsig/Email_Sig_Logo.jpg] P: 570.837.7647 * W: 877.324.ROWE * F: 570.837.6335 PO Bo

RE: Cabinets Against a Wall

Pendant sprinkler? Matt From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:50 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Cabinets Against a Wall NFPA 13D, 2017 (the edition currently in force in PA)

Cabinets Against a Wall

NFPA 13D, 2017 (the edition currently in force in PA) 8.2.5.6.3 Where sidewall sprinklers are more than 3 ft. above the top of cabinets, the sprinkler shall be permitted to be installed on the wall above the cabinets where the cabinets are no greater than 12 in. from the wall. We have a case th

Re: Never heard of this One

The grid is what he said. From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Bruce Verhei Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 11:12 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Never heard of this One Is the inspector meaning the grid, or the cross piece that connects to