Re: Standpipe Valve Handles

2019-01-03 Thread Steve Leyton
Upset The Nut is now officially the name of my new band. Steve Leyton (Sent from my phone; please excuse typos and voice text corruptions.) Original message From: John Denhardt Date: 1/3/19 4:13 PM (GMT-08:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Standpip

Re: Standpipe Valve Handles

2019-01-03 Thread John Denhardt
Red Locktite works great but I like Ron’s idea. John August Denhardt, P.E. Strickland Fire Protection On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Ron Greenman mailto:rongreen...@gmail.com>> wrote: Upset the nut at the threads with a center-punch. Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com

Re: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread John Irwin
I like the premise, but the reference from the appendix only mentions Response and not temperature. Also, we did make some changes to the system. A few low offices and party rooms were added. I dont think this would fly in my situation. John Irwin West Coast Branch Manager Quick Response Fire Pr

Re: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread Joe Burtell
9.4.2.3. High-temperature sprinklers shall be permitted to be used throughout ordinary and extra hazard occupancies, storage occupancies, and as allowed in this standard and other NFPA codes and standards. A.9.4.3.1 When renovations occur in an existing building and no changes are made in the exist

RE: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread John Irwin
The issue is actually the temperature of the sprinklers. Much of the equipment is in place making it difficult to access the sprinklers. Plus I don’t necessarily agree that they need to be changed because I don’t believe this is the same as a LH occupancy. I hate to see money pissed away becaus

Re: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread Joe Burtell
There is nothing that says you cannot overdesign a system. Case in point is ESFR sprinkler systems. We install them in lease warehouses all the time even though the current tenant may only be storing class 1 product to 12'-0. Is it overkill, yes, but it gives them flexibility for future tenants. Sa

RE: Residential High-rise building

2019-01-03 Thread Matthew J Willis
Seems your building is a High Rise? R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP Design Manager /3-D Specialist Rapid Fire Protection Inc. 1530 Samco Road Rapid City, SD 57702 Office-605.348.2342 Direct Line-605.593.5063 Cell-605.391.2733 Fax:-605.348.0108 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

Re: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread John Irwin
Exposed roof at about 25ft. 286 sprinklers are existing. We have no information on the padding used for the park. John Irwin West Coast Branch Manager Quick Response Fire Protection 727-282-9243 Typed on tiny keys, just for you. Please forgive spelling errors, typographical transgressions and g

RE: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread Art Tiroly
Due to the change of occupancy the sprinkler system should match the requirements of the new occupancy. If quick response sprinklers are required for code compliance then they need to be changed. Art Tiroly ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly 24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143 216-621-8899 216-570-7030

RE: Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
Is there a ceiling or exposed construction overhead? What is the ceiling/roof height? Do any of the foam, vinyl, foam rubber, plastics, etc. have any special ratings making them non-combustible or self-extinguishing? Smoke and Flame spread ratings matter with respect to occupant evacuation.

Indoor Trampoline Park

2019-01-03 Thread John Irwin
Some versions of this discussion have come up over the past weeks. We're having a bit of an issue with an AHJ in converting a Sports Authority to in indoor park. Originally we submitted as Light Hazard because it's an assembly occupancy. I didn't necessarily agree with this but ... anyway ... T

RE: Residential High-rise building

2019-01-03 Thread Matt Grise
And provisions for dwelling units. Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Matt Grise Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 3:09 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Residential High-rise building The whole building will be NFPA 13 (no 13R), but NFP

RE: Residential High-rise building

2019-01-03 Thread Matt Grise
The whole building will be NFPA 13 (no 13R), but NFPA 13 Chapters 8 and 11 have sections on design with residential sprinklers. Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Michael Goodis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 3:03 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Residential High-rise building

2019-01-03 Thread Michael Goodis
Are there provisions in NFPA for buildings that are residential use past 5 stories high? We have an 8 story project with a basement that has residential useage on floors 1-8 with a combined usage on the first floor for Mech rooms, maint. Rooms, and storage. Does the whole building fall unde

Re: Standpipe Valve Handles

2019-01-03 Thread Ron Greenman
Upset the nut at the threads with a center-punch. Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com 253.576.9700 The Universe is monstrously indifferent to the presence of man. -Werner Herzog, screenwriter, film director, author, actor and opera director (1942-) On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:03 AM Phillips, Ma

RE: Standpipe Valve Handles

2019-01-03 Thread Phillips, Mark
Loctite Thread locker 242or equal Mark Phillips Vice President of Fire Protection, Kirlin Carolinas, LLC t: 919-526-1584 | m: 919-610-0490 mphill...@jjkllc.com | https://kirlingroup.com 8000 Brownleigh Dr, Raleigh, NC 27617 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of James Crawford Sent: Thursday, Janua

Standpipe Valve Handles

2019-01-03 Thread James Crawford
Does anyone know of a way to stop the valve handles on the 2 ½” standpipe valves from being removed? We have a couple buildings where they continue to be vandalized. ( 18 floors where they have been removed) Thank you James Crawford Phaser Fire Protection Ltd. Phone 604-888-03

Re: Pitot Pressure Above Residual Pressure

2019-01-03 Thread Skyler Bilbo
Roland, I'm back to being confused about this. I know the definition I gave for velocity pressure, Pv, was exactly wrong, and I should have used the word parallel instead of perpendicular, but I do understand the concept. The more that I think about it, the more that I think I was right original