I think I'd try to get the building designer to put the UPS into a
dedicated enclosure and use an inerting system.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:48 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:
> So, I'll assume this battery assembly will be in some type of
I appreciate the discussion. A few points to keep in mind:
- This is fire control design, not fire extinguishment
- Extra Hazard Group 2 (EH2) is not a "light" design by any means.
*3..3.134.2 of
NFPA 13-2019 edition:* Occupancies by definition is "Occupancies
or portions of other occ
Then Bambi and a wave of animals run out of the conflagration in all
directions...
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It's a shame that full scale fire testing is cost prohibitive. I would really
like to see what would actually happen with some of the worst case scenarios we
bring up.
Shielded fire in RV launches a propane tank that hits the full fuel tank in the
fiberglass boat parked two spaces away. The fir
At the end of the day I think you are going to end up with what ever your AHJ
will live with based on available water supply. This is a tricky one and really
needs a FPE to look at it.
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SL- "Cars have combustible upholstery and tanks of explosive flammable liquid,
yet we park them side-by-side in 9'-0" wide spaces over 100' above fire
department access in buildings WITHOUT sprinklers"
This is true.
But last I checked, cars were not built from kiln dried 2" nominal or less
m
I'm familiar with that one too. Unsprinklered building, cause was never
determined but it was an older facility, I believe. I think they had to
scrape 75 melted boats off the foundation to save it...
SL
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So, I'll assume this battery assembly will be in some type of occupiable
enclosure which will have environmental control.
I would definitely not extend or try to tie it into any existing PreAction
system.
I would be looking at a stand alone suppression system, either clean agent or
aerosol dep
Ok, look at the fire in Monroe County Michigan in December at the Toledo Beach
MarinaThat's closer to this application. They WERE able to save most of the
foundation.
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A dockside fire event is NOT comparable to a sprinklered indoor RV and
trailered boat storage facility. This fire does underscore the insane amount
of potential energy in boat hulls but trailered boats on trailers that are
exposed to the ceiling complement are much better protected than boats b
https://www.gadsdentimes.com/news/20200415/scottsboro-dock-fire-that-killed-8-ruled-accidental
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No idea, but I'll ask. Looking for wide-tooth comb here. Are wet-chem
systems the "usual" go-to or is it more nuanced than that?
SL
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What is the battery chemistry?
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From: Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
Date: 1/14/21 12:15 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: "Prahl, Craig/GVL" ,
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I can't tell you the exact dimensions for specifications because it's in
pre-design. It's right next to the building, but several hundred feet from
the existing preaction areas and riser.
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Steve,
Can you provide a better description of this unit? How far from the building
will it be located?
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I'm engaged in a conversation with a project team where an Uninterrupted Power
Supply is being added to a local small-scale broadcast facility (NPR
affiliate). The control rooms and studios are already protected by preaction
and this battery stack is being added outside the building and a ways
I think there's a substantial hazard yes, but this use isn't the end of days.
Cars have combustible upholstery and tanks of explosive flammable liquid, yet
we park them side-by-side in 9'-0" wide spaces over 100' above fire department
access in buildings WITHOUT sprinklers. An RV or mobile ho
As someone who lives in a "travel trailer" full time, I would be nervous with
EH II.
More than likely, all tanks will be drained. ALL of these tanks are made of,
plastic.
The styrene nature of the furniture etc, also comes into play.
We must also remember, if they are storing the RV, chances a
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