RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Open or exterior corridors

2022-01-06 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
29606 CONTACT BY: email or MS TEAMS -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Dane Long via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 1:41 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Dane Long Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Open or exterior corridors They reference

RE: Open or exterior corridors

2022-01-06 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Dane Long via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:38 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Dane Long Subject: Open or exterior corridors BE ADVISED - This email originated outside EMCOR. I have a 13R project with exterior open corridors as seen in 13R (2016) Fi

Open or exterior corridors

2022-01-06 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
I have a 13R project with exterior open corridors as seen in 13R (2016) Figure A.6.6.5(a). Per the IBC were being required to provide protection. Can I apply 6.6.5.1.1? 6.6.5.1.1 Where sidewall sprinklers are installed beneath decks or balconies constructed with open wood joists, sprinklers

RE: 13R Installation of Sprinkler Systems in Low-Rise Residential Occupancies

2021-11-09 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Tim, If you have the handbook the next page actually talks about this with a "Closer Look" at the height limitations. (2016 - Pg201) Thanks, Dane Long, AET Engineering Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:    785.825.7710 F:    785.825.0667 A:   1383 W. North Street  Salina, KS 

RE: Closets and Clearance from Deflector to Storage

2021-07-01 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Peter, One thing to emphasize is that it says 400ft3 not ft2. So, the thought is if you have mechanical equipment like a furnace, you're not really going to have much room to store anything in this closet. An example would be a closet with an 8ft. ceiling can only be 7ftx7ft. This is 49sqft or

RE: Car Dealerships

2021-04-29 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
You could try suppling a bulk main to the remote area, essentially creating a loop system. I had a job where it was OH1 and got installed and then ended up getting reclassified as an OH2. We didn’t have enough water to feed the OH2 hazard so we ran a bulk main from the feed main to remote area.

RE: Best Pressure Loss RPDA

2021-04-02 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
You might try the Ames M500, Deringer 50GX or Ames 5000SS Thanks, Dane Long, AET Engineering Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:785.825.7710 F:785.825.0667 A: 1383 W. North Street Salina, KS 67401 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of 321

RE: Standard HSW at 12 to 18 inches down

2021-02-24 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Yes, The Tyco TY-FRL EC HSW has saved me several times. Thanks, Dane Long, AET Engineering Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:    785.825.7710 F:    785.825.0667 A:   1383 W. North Street  Salina, KS  67401 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Skyler

RE: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-15 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
u would have to treat them as grouped > obstructions and protect underneath. > > -Kyle M > > -----Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum > On Behalf Of Dane Long via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:29 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >

Noncontinuous obstructions More than 18" down

2021-02-12 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Seeking others opinions I'm doing an Elementary school where in the commons area they have 4ft. by 8ft. tectum ceiling panels space throughout with at least 1" of space between each panel. These panels are slopes with the roof in one direct and then away from the roof in another.

RE: Existing Dry System

2021-02-04 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
We did an apartment years ago that was S-2 on the first floor with R-2 above. We ended up sprinkling it throughout. You have to be careful because there are a few requirements in the IBC you'll want to check out. I'm guessing a 2hr fire separate is probably requirement. You also might want to

Listed Antifreeze

2020-10-28 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Good Morning, I'm looking at putting in a change request to the NFPA 13 committee on antifreeze systems. See below my reasoning. 1. Per NFPA 13 (2016) 7.6.3.1 if you don’t use a backflow your required to incorporate a min. 5ft. drop and check valve with 1/32" hole. 2. Per NFPA you can only use

RE: STANDPIPES NFPA 14

2020-08-06 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
My two cents are as follows: Looking at NFPA 14 chapter 3 (See below) you'll see the definition of standpipe its states "vertically floor to floor", when the definition of horizontal Standpipe says "single level". Also if you look up the definition of horizontal in the dictionary you see says

Drawing/Project Management software

2020-03-12 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone on here use some sort of drawing/project management software? Any recommendations? We’ve been looking but seem most are more toward GC’s and not specialty contractors. Thanks, Dane Long, CET Engineering Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:

Trouble getting Architects to give Revit files

2019-12-02 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Good Afternoon Forum, We recently change to HydraCAD for Revit and seem to be having some issues getting some of the architectural firms to release Revit files. They say they can't release or share these files because they contain proprietary information. I've tried multiple times to inform them

RE: Hotel washroom & closets

2019-10-16 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
8.15.8 is for within a dwelling units. I would think no matter the duration a hotel room is still a dwelling unit. 8.15.8 Dwelling Units. 8.15.8.1 Bathrooms. 8.15.8.1.1* Sprinklers shall not be required in bathrooms that are located within dwelling units of hotels and motels, that do

RE: Securing Institutional Heads

2019-10-09 Thread Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone know of any codes that help omit sprinklers from bank vaults? Thanks, Dane Long, CET Design Technician | Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc. P:785.825.7710 F:785.825.0667 A: 1383 W. North Street Salina, KS 67401 From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of