RE: resurrecting an old system

2013-11-20 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I would air test first but I think you will need the water test to find leaks   Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Scott A Futrell Date: 11/20/2013 9:06 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: resurrecting an old system I li

RE: Polystyrene Peanuts

2013-11-08 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
So if they don't hang from the ceilings  and instead construct a structure to hang the bags from the question still exists.  You can visit any "ups store" or "fedex office kinkos" and find bags hung from the ceiling.  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Thomas R

Re: NFPA25 scope

2013-11-06 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I've encountered this from the recalled sprinkler heads issue and I do believe that recalled components should be identified.  If the only thing we are willing to conduct and guarantee is a main drain test then the owners may as well self perform that because a trained monkey can do that.  S

RE: Head Guards

2013-11-05 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
The best practice would be to submit the product sheets to the AHJ and ask for a variance to install the head guards.  If he attaches them to the plywood then that's part of the ceiling and not part of the head though. And that affects the 18" clearance rule.  Sent from my Galaxy S®III ---

RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-29 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Im not qualified to answer but my opinion is that much of these standards were put In place for industry before internet, etc.   So that every job does not need to be reviewed by an engineer.   I was told the 250 lb requirement was to support the weight of the fitter hanging the pipe. I don't kn

RE: Missing pages in NFPA 30

2013-10-23 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Ask if you can use FM standards? Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Damien Shannon Date: 10/23/2013 2:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Missing pages in NFPA 30 Hi Galen. Thank you for the response. The project in

Re: jockey pump runs intermittently

2013-10-17 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I completely agree with Ron concerning the soldering of copper sensing lines.  This scope of work should be performed by a fire sprinkler contractor and not a plumber.  You can gain these skills through a community college course  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message Fro

RE: County continues investigation into fire sprinklers, voluntary recall

2013-10-14 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Lol.  "Replaced with a more reliable rubber seal" It amazes me how people can miss these sprinklers for more than a decade Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Thomas Watt Date: 10/14/2013 8:27 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject

Flex Heads in Remodels

2013-10-09 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Quick question on industry practices concerning remodels.  When we remove hard pipe drops and replace with flex heads in a remodel do we need to perform hydraulic calcs? Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: "Terri S. Leyton" Date: 10/09/2013 6:35 PM (GMT-05:00)

RE: Sprinkler broken in 05 star hotel guest rooms

2013-10-05 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I would first rule out the use of clothes hangers  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Phong - Indochine Engineering Date: 10/05/2013 9:33 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Sprinkler broken in 05 star hotel guest rooms

RE: Sprinkler protection criteria for bulk storage piles

2013-09-30 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
This topic was addressed about a month ago on the Forum.  The consensus was that it was outside the scope of NFPA 13 and that the Engineer of Record should be consulted    Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: David Bitton Date: 09/30/2013 7:56 PM (GMT-05:00) T

RE: Life Safety or Property Protection

2013-09-26 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Read 13- 1.2.1. References life and property protection (2010 edition) Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Charles Thurston Date: 09/26/2013 8:53 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org Subject: Life Safety or Property Protection Hello Sprinkle

RE: Full Forward Flow Test Control Valves

2013-09-25 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I would place it in the same categoryas auxiliary drain valves and I don't think it needs to be monitored Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: Greg McGahan Date: 09/25/2013 1:33 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerfo...@firesprinkler.org Subject: Full Forward Flow Te

Star Exhauster BB parts

2013-09-25 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
I ordered a rebuild kit for a Star Exhauster BB and am having problems getting a rubber rebuild kit for this valve.  Does anyone have a rebuild kit? If this valve can't be rebuilt, what options are available? The system was designed to function with the valve. It already has an accelerator on th

Re: old 14.5k ecoh brass upright

2013-09-25 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
We are in business to make money and on an issue like this we need to remember the words of our dear late friend George Church: keep it simple  Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: "rongreenman ." Date: 09/24/2013 9:09 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.f

Re: OSHA Tie off requirements

2013-09-19 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Well next time you know to add 15% to your bids with tgis GC to cover his safety specs Sent from my Galaxy S®III Original message From: bjnew...@bamfordfire.com Date: 09/19/2013 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: OSHA Tie off requi