RE: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands

2015-01-08 Thread Jerry Van Kolken
Well in my current situation we are doing a pump replacements, so I have 24" manifold in a trench with 12" leads popping up to 4 fire pumps then dropping back down to 18" manifold in another trench. With the existing pump pads it puts the 12" up about 3'6". I was hope to avoid having to put in brac

RE: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands

2015-01-08 Thread RFletcher
ssage- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of J. Scott Mitchell, PE Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands Doesn't NFPA 13 allow engineer certifi

RE: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands

2015-01-08 Thread J. Scott Mitchell, PE
Doesn't NFPA 13 allow engineer certified bracing components to be used in lieu of listed components? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Jerry Van Kolken Date:01/07/2015 4:43 PM (GMT-06:00) To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subjec

Re: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands

2015-01-08 Thread rongreenman .
No matter how well reinforced and clamped I'd consider a pipe stand equivalent to a hanger (upside down). If the stands are holding up long runs of pipe I'd brace them as if they were hanging from the ceiling. If merely a couple of stands to support a back flow I'd look at the device and associated

RE: Bracing for Pipe on Pipe Stands

2015-01-07 Thread Steve Leyton
We've had to brace piping that was clamped to stands that were bolted to the floor into 4 epoxied inserts. Whether we agree or disagree with the enforcer, it's purely subjective as there's no exception in the standard. Adding a couple angled two-ways here and there isn't such a big deal thoug