Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread John Denhardt
> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Aaron > Peck > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:32 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Hinson, Ryan
orum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings He's talking about the fittings. Galv pipe with black fittings. I have never seen a restriction against using C=120 on dry systems as long as the pipe was galvanized (until the 2013 edition of NFPA13)

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread James D. Waite
sage- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:46 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Mark A. Sornsin, P.E.
forum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings You have never been able to use a C factor of 120 for black steel pipe on a dry system. > From: jdwa...@flsamerica.com > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Dry System w

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hairfield
You have never been able to use a C factor of 120 for black steel pipe on a dry system. > From: jdwa...@flsamerica.com > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:42:01 + > >

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread James D. Waite
orum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:35 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings For dry and double interlocked pre action systems, black pipe is c of 100. Galv is c of 120. Fo

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings I got the 2010, 13 code on my iPhone but I'm still useless trying to find anything. Give me the book and I can turn right too it. Go figure. It may have been 100 before, did they change it in 2013? Sent from my iPhone Aaron M. Peck, SET

Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Aaron Peck
I got the 2010, 13 code on my iPhone but I'm still useless trying to find anything. Give me the book and I can turn right too it. Go figure. It may have been 100 before, did they change it in 2013? Sent from my iPhone Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection Skype +1(202)407-9079 Cambodia +855(0)78700

Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread John Denhardt
Not with the 2013 edition of 13. Changed all steel pipping to 100 for dry and preaction systems. Thanks, John August Denhardt P.E. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:06 AM, "Aaron Peck" wrote: > > If you use black pipe is a reduction of your pipe C-Factor. I believe it's > reduced to 120... but I don

Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Aaron Peck
If you use black pipe is a reduction of your pipe C-Factor. I believe it's reduced to 120... but I don't have the code in front of me. Galvanized pipe lets you retain you C-Factor. Sent from my iPhone Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection Skype +1(202)407-9079 Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > On Feb 14,

Re: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread John Denhardt
Why will it not be allowed? No restrictions. Used to be done all the time especially with Navy projects. Thanks, John August Denhardt P.E. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:27 AM, "James D. Waite" wrote: > > Didn't there used to be a section in 13 that specifically allowed black steel > fittings with

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Mackinnon
: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings NFPA 13 does not require dry systems to be galvanized, that is a Factory Mutual requirement. How is the Raleigh snow and ice? Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 90

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Carr
NFPA 13 does not require dry systems to be galvanized, that is a Factory Mutual requirement. How is the Raleigh snow and ice? Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: sprink

RE: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hairfield
Factory Mutual > From: jdwa...@flsamerica.com > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Dry System with Galvanized Pipe and Black Fittings > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:29:52 + > > Didn't there used to be a section in 13 that specifically allowed black steel > fittings with gal