[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-05 Thread Phuang3
Hi, The LMS 7.9.1 can play DFF, DSF without problem, but I need to reduce these files on my hard drive. It seems the wavpack is the way to go. I compress my DFF with wavpack 5.1 and replaced the wavunpack.exe on LMS bin folder. While the LMS was playing the wavpack file, I noticed the file format

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2020-04-23 Thread HumanMedia
Is there any chance DSD Wavpack this will be added to the base install? HumanMedia's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44865 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107942 _

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-06 Thread Apesbrain
You might try writing a custom-convert.conf that uses WVUNPACK to convert the WV file back to DSD before sending to the player. Type WVUNPACK on the command line to see format and available options. Apesbrain's Profile: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-06 Thread bpa
Apesbrain wrote: > You might try writing a custom-convert.conf that uses WVUNPACK to > convert the WV file back to DSD before sending to the player. Type > WVUNPACK on the command line to see format and available options. I think the trying to take over wvp will not work. I think a new type (e

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-06 Thread Apesbrain
^ That makes sense although if he's using WavPack -only- for these DSD files then my solution would be adequate. I wasn't aware of a "custom-types.conf" file. If you have one, can you post it here so I can see its format? Thanks. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-06 Thread bpa
Apesbrain wrote: > ^ That makes sense although if he's using WavPack -only- for these DSD > files then my solution would be adequate. > > I wasn't aware of a "custom-types.conf" file. If you have one, can you > post it here so I can see its format? Thanks. The custom-types.conf is the same fo

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-07 Thread Phuang3
Hi guys, Thanks for the input. I tried to add the custom-convert.conf in the root folder of squeeze server (C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server). I added "wvp dff * *" at the first line, and restarted the server. However, it didn't work as I expected. Is it the correct the way to do this? BT

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-07 Thread bpa
Phuang3 wrote: > Hi guys, > > Thanks for the input. I tried to add the custom-convert.conf in the root > folder of squeeze server (C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server). I > added "wvp dff * *" at the first line, and restarted the server. > However, it didn't work as I expected. Is it the co

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-07 Thread Phuang3
bpa wrote: > If it works on Daphile and not on Windows - then it is just a setting or > perhaps a custom change done in Daphile. > > Enable logging player.source to INFO and compares Daphile and Windows > output playing the same file. Hi bpa, Thanks for the input. I'm afraid it's more than ju

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-07 Thread Mnyb
Daphile ? Does it no use modified version of SoX , quite possible it uses other modifications. Workaround create hirez pcm copies 24/88.2 or 24/172.4 depending on original DSD rate . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J Me

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread bpa
Phuang3 wrote: > Thanks for the input. I'm afraid it's more than just configuration. Some > executables may be different from windows LMS. In addition, I need to > install a beta version of Daphile in order to log into terminal, and see > those settings. > While I was playing wavpack DSD, my DDC

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread Mnyb
Also that LMS claims 705kbps thats not really true its an old UI bug it's a placeholder for the typical 16/44.1 flac stream . The actual rate is not presented in the UI . You have to turn up logging and study the logfiles to actually see what the transcoding produces . In reality when transcodin

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread Apesbrain
Phuang3 wrote: > PS. My DAC is not DSD capable. Some things are best disclosed in the original post. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread Phuang3
bpa wrote: > From you initial post iut was assumed your DAC can play DSD but since it > cannot this phrase is irrelvant "I don't *mind* DSD-to-PCM conversion" > - you have no choice - your DSD audio will have to be converted to PCM > so why not just do it once and save cycles and space. > > Ign

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread Phuang3
Mnyb wrote: > Also that LMS claims 705kbps thats not really true its an old UI bug > it's a placeholder for the typical 16/44.1 flac stream . > > The actual rate is not presented in the UI . You have to turn up logging > and study the logfiles to actually see what the transcoding produces . > >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-08 Thread bpa
Phuang3 wrote: > I wish to keep the original DFF file so that I may play it on a new DAC > in the future. > > > > > Just because you convert doesn''t mean you have to delete the files - > > archive them. > > > > > > > > > I am having difficulty to get the "player.source logs" from > > > > > >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-09 Thread bpa
The main difference between unpacking into WAV vs PCM. WAV is a PCM stream with a header which gives details about sample size(e.g. 1ch vs 2ch 16bit vs 24 vs 32 bitt) and sample rate (44.1kHz, 48Khz, 96KHz etc). A PCM is by default always 44.1Khz 16 Bit 2 ch. So if a WAV stream is fed into Sox

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-09 Thread Phuang3
Hi bpa, Thank you for the detail explanation. Now, I have a better understanding on how LMS deals with different formats. If the final output is not down sampled, I am happy with it. Even if the wav was encoded into Flac, it's still lossless. I switched back to LMS 7.9.1 already. Poting --

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread michaelvv
What is the point of saving "space" with wavpack 5.x (DSF,DFF) files if we do not play them as DSD. I can play DSF,DFF files (DOP) using squeezelite, but if I was able of playing the compressed wv files roughly (50% of original DSF,DFF filesize) this would be awesome. I have tried to play direct

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 13.09.2017 19:28, michaelvv wrote: WORKS GREAT BUT THIS IS NOT DSD Code: wvunpack file.wv -wq -o - | sox -q - -r 176.4k -b 24 -C 0 -t alsa plughw:2 This plays it as DSD DoP: wvunpack -q file.wv --dff -o - | sox -t dff - -r 176400 -t wav -b 24

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
On 13.09.2017 19:53, Kimmo Taskinen wrote: On 13.09.2017 19:28, michaelvv wrote: WORKS GREAT BUT THIS IS NOT DSD Code: wvunpack file.wv -wq -o - | sox -q - -r 176.4k -b 24 -C 0 -t alsa plughw:2 This plays it as DSD DoP: wvunpack -q file.wv --d

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread bpa
michaelvv wrote: > I have tried to play directly on my linux box, but I'm not able to play > other than PCM format. This is why you need to define a new audio type for compressed DSD so that a LMS just uncompresses and then passes DSD stream to a DSD capable player. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread michaelvv
kipeta wrote: > On 13.09.2017 19:28, michaelvv wrote: > > WORKS GREAT BUT THIS IS NOT DSD > > > > Code: > > > > wvunpack file.wv -wq -o - | sox -q - -r 176.4k -b 24 -C 0 -t alsa > plughw:2 > > > > > This plays it as DSD DoP: > > wvunpack -q file.wv

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-13 Thread michaelvv
Too be able to play compressed wavpack DSF,DFF files in LMS would be a really nice feature. It will save a lot of harddisk space. michaelvv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59321 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-14 Thread michaelvv
Okay this is really a bad way to do it, but I'm playing my compressed DFF,DSF files in LMS now. I'm on a linux version , so this is what I did.. As I never shall use wavpack for anything else as DFF,DSF I just did these things. in */etc/squeezeboxserver/types.conf* I altered the wvp line to wv

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-14 Thread bpa
michaelvv wrote: > Okay this is really a bad way to do it, but I'm playing my compressed > DFF,DSF files in LMS now. Why is it a bad way - defining a new audio type without changing LMS code is the right way. You should no change convert.conf anf types .conf but add your own rules to custom-con

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-14 Thread michaelvv
bpa wrote: > If you want to handle file specifci info & metadata such as playing time > - that means code changes to scanner. Any clue how to do this ??? michaelvv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?useri

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-09-14 Thread bpa
michaelvv wrote: > Any clue how to do this ??? I don't know the scanner but Kipeta posted a patch a few posts earlier but I suspect it may be overriding wavepack rather than creating a new compressed DSD format. bpa's Pro

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-10-05 Thread Phuang3
michaelvv wrote: > What is the point of saving "space" with wavpack 5.x (DSF,DFF) files if > we > do not play them as DSD. Because I have some SACD rips and would like to listen to them on LMS. In fact, those DSD capable DAC chips are actually converting DSD into PCM internally. People think the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does LMS 7.9.1 support Wavpack DSD playback?

2017-11-15 Thread Archimago
michaelvv wrote: > Okay this is really a bad way to do it, but I'm playing my compressed > DFF,DSF files in LMS now. > > I'm on a linux version , so this is what I did.. > > As I never shall use wavpack for anything else as DFF,DSF I just did > these things. > > in */etc/squeezeboxserver/types