Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
Thanks for your reply philippe_44.. I will wait for the new version first, then might stop using the Podcast App from MySqueezebox.com as there are a few other ways to use that do work .. If I click directly on the above link in my reply "https://podcasts.files.bbci.co.uk/b00lvdrj.rss"; the br

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > Hi there, thanks for your reply.. > > regards 404... when go to play a podcast through MY APPS > PODCASTS > > KERMODE AND MAYO'S FILM REVIEW > same episode as before ie:RE-PLAY > PREVIOUS > I get the 404 error. Same issue for football daily podcast. > > The Podcasts App setting

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
Hi there, thanks for your reply.. regards 404... when go to play a podcast through MY APPS > PODCASTS > KERMODE AND MAYO'S FILM REVIEW > same episode as before ie:RE-PLAY PREVIOUS > I get the 404 error. Same issue for football daily podcast. The Podcasts App settings at MySqueezebox.com has two

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > Oki doke.. So shall I continue my logging? > > if so, same Q's as earlier > > shall I leave the streaming mode at CACHE? > > shall I try a few that give the 404 error too.? > > shall I try through MY APPS > BBC SOUNDS as well as the MY APPS > > PODCASTS and the RADIO PODCASTS

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread staresy
Hi Philippe, With your new caching to disk capability, would it be possible to use this functionality to pause live streams for extended periods? If I pause a live radio stream at the moment, it pauses and can resume play after a short while (I assume this is limited by some internal buffer in t

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
Oki doke.. So shall I continue my logging? if so, same Q's as earlier shall I leave the streaming mode at CACHE? shall I try a few that give the 404 error too.? shall I try through MY APPS > BBC SOUNDS as well as the MY APPS > PODCASTS and the RADIO PODCASTS paths? all three. cheers CD ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > ok got it.. > > shall I leave the streaming mode at CACHE? > > shall I try a few that give the 404 error too.? > > shall I try through MY APPS > BBC SOUNDS as well as the MY APPS > > PODCASTS and the RADIO PODCASTS paths? all three.. > > cheers CD I've found the reason why p

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
ok got it.. shall I leave the streaming mode at CACHE? shall I try a few that give the 404 error too.? shall I try through MY APPS > BBC SOUNDS as well as the MY APPS > PODCASTS and the RADIO PODCASTS paths? all three.. cheers CD -

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > I am just using default everything.. server web control of a Boom and > sync'd to a radio. > the only difference is the path I am taking to get to the url.. Home > > RADIO > Podcasts > Talk > Film > Kermode and Mayo's Film Review > Recent > Episodes > Steve Zahn, etc etc > > > "

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
I am just using default everything.. server web control of a Boom and sync'd to a radio. the only difference is the path I am taking to get to the url.. Home > RADIO > Podcasts > Talk > Film > Kermode and Mayo's Film Review > Recent Episodes > Steve Zahn, etc etc "It's on LMS' Settings, tab "ad

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > thanks again for your help.. > > Where to "set the "player.streaming.remote" to "info"..? -I am on win10 > and don't fiddle under the hood very much..- > > Q. What is the difference between the earlier version with the RELIABLE > plugin and this newer version with it builtin..?

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > Hi there > > Using the cache method meant that the whole podcast played without a > stop. > But trying to play it again, gives me the below error in cache mode: > > 404 Not Found: > There is no "http:" skin, try http://192.168.1.149:9000 instead. > > I now get that error for e

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
thanks again for your help.. Where to "set the "player.streaming.remote" to "info"..? -I am on win10 and don't fiddle under the hood very much..- Q. What is the difference between the earlier version with the RELIABLE plugin and this newer version with it builtin..? Q. Why does the opml stream

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > Thanks for your reply philippe_44 > > Are these what you wanted..? two examples > > kermode and mayo latest podcast (Steve Zahn) > error showing > http://127.0.0.1:9000/http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000vrnn&player=00%3A04%3A20%3A1e%3A2f%3Af4 > this works okay > http://opml.r

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread doobre
Thanks for your reply philippe_44 Are these what you wanted..? two examples kermode and mayo latest podcast (Steve Zahn) error showing http://127.0.0.1:9000/http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000vrnn&player=00%3A04%3A20%3A1e%3A2f%3Af4 this works okay http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=t162888

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-08 Thread philippe_44
doobre wrote: > Hi there > > Using the cache method meant that the whole podcast played without a > stop. > But trying to play it again, gives me the below error in cache mode: > > 404 Not Found: > There is no "http:" skin, try http://192.168.1.149:9000 instead. > > I now get that error for e

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread doobre
Hi there Using the cache method meant that the whole podcast played without a stop. But trying to play it again, gives me the below error in cache mode: 404 Not Found: There is no "http:" skin, try http://192.168.1.149:9000 instead. I now get that error for every podcast that I select to play

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread doobre
Hi there slartibartfast I am in NZ, so I assume the worst case. But Plex Media Server doesn't have any trouble with these long podcasts.. I have always had this problem since using LMS. cheers CD doobre's Profile: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread slartibartfast
doobre wrote: > Do you know what [if any] is difference between the reliable plug-in and > the incorporated item in 8.2.? Just wonder...Where in the world are you? I am > in the UK. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread slartibartfast
doobre wrote: > Do you know what [if any] is difference between the reliable plug-in and > the incorporated item in 8.2.? Just wonder...No idea what the difference is. > It looks like playing that podcast is also working fore on Windows 10, 45 minutes so far. I can't remember ever having an iss

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread doobre
Do you know what [if any] is difference between the reliable plug-in and the incorporated item in 8.2.? Just wonder... doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-07 Thread slartibartfast
doobre wrote: > 34603 > > Hi All > Thanks for all the work you guys are doing on our favourite music > server. > > I have been testing podcast playback with the new version [Version: > 8.2.0 - 1619381438 @ Sun Apr 25 23:10:02 WEDT 2021] and hope this may be > of help.. > I did find that the ea

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-05-06 Thread doobre
34603 Hi All Thanks for all the work you guys are doing on our favourite music server. I have been testing podcast playback with the new version [Version: 8.2.0 - 1619381438 @ Sun Apr 25 23:10:02 WEDT 2021] and hope this may be of help.. I did find that the earlier version of LMS along with the

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread bpa
mherger wrote: > > Not sure what happened with PlayMP4 but users have managed to install > it > > on 8.* when it has a maxVersion of 7.9.* - I suspected it got > carried > > along after upgrade. > > They managed to install it without manual intervention? That I would > consider a bug. > > Bu

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread Michael Herger
Not sure what happened with PlayMP4 but users have managed to install it on 8.* when it has a maxVersion of 7.9.* - I suspected it got carried along after upgrade. They managed to install it without manual intervention? That I would consider a bug. But please note that there two maxVersion v

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread bpa
mherger wrote: > > What happens if a user already has Unreliable installed and "use > > unsupported extensions" checked and also upgrades LMS to 8.2 ? > > "unsupported" here means plugins which are no longer supported by their > > author, thus have an outdated maxVersion, BUT have been added t

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread slartibartfast
mherger wrote: > > What happens if a user already has Unreliable installed and "use > > unsupported extensions" checked and also upgrades LMS to 8.2 ? > > "unsupported" here means plugins which are no longer supported by their > author, thus have an outdated maxVersion, BUT have been added to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread Michael Herger
What happens if a user already has Unreliable installed and "use unsupported extensions" checked and also upgrades LMS to 8.2 ? "unsupported" here means plugins which are no longer supported by their author, thus have an outdated maxVersion, BUT have been added to a list of known-to-work outda

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread doobre
brilliant.. thanks very much.. cheers CD doobre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114388

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread slimhase
doobre wrote: > You guys are always ahead of the game.. excellent stuff, but > I dont have any options like that in my setup, im on win10 > cheers CD > 34442 You need the latest version of LMS: Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1619381438 @ Sun Apr 25 23:22:11 CEST 2021 Only then this entr

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread doobre
You guys are always ahead of the game.. excellent stuff, but I dont have any options like that in my setup, im on win10 cheers CD 34442 +---+ |Filename: lms-network-options.jpg | |Download: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread slartibartfast
doobre wrote: > I was just celebrating the reliable plug-in being able to listen without > any breaks.. today I find that this version Logitech Media Server > Version: 8.2.0 - 1614990095 @ Sat Mar 6 01:33:04 WEST 2021 says it is > not supported.. > So is it best to go back to the earlier versio

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread doobre
I was just celebrating the reliable plug-in being able to listen without any breaks.. today I find that this version Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1614990095 @ Sat Mar 6 01:33:04 WEST 2021 says it is not supported.. So is it best to go back to the earlier version or will the reliable wo

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread bpa
Paul Webster wrote: > Looks it would run if "use unsupported" was enabled. This sort of confirm what I thought. I think something like this happened with mixcloud / playMP4 and 8.* which through accident sometimes worked and so caused confusion. > So would Reliable to check the version itself

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread Paul Webster
Good question ... In my case Reliable was already installed and I was running 8.1 I updated to 8.2 recently and saw the LMS log entry saying that it would not run Reliable (which was already installed). I have since removed Reliable plugin. Looks it would run if "use unsupported" was enabled.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread bpa
Paul Webster wrote: > Reliable plugin now has a MaxVersion of 8.1 in its install.xml - so LMS > will not run it on LMS 8.2 What happens if a user already has Unreliable installed and "use unsupported extensions" checked and also upgrades LMS to 8.2 ? --

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread Paul Webster
staresy wrote: > > Also, when installed, does this mean that the reliable plugin should be > disabled/removed? > Reliable plugin now has a MaxVersion of 8.1 in its install.xml - so LMS will not run it on LMS 8.2 Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins cove

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread Michael Herger
Hi, I don't see this in the nightly builds, the most recent I see is 25/04 (I usually go here for the builds http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.2) That is the latest. I can see the 26/04 version on github but am unsure how to download from here and install on a win10 serv

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-28 Thread staresy
philippe_44 wrote: > So, Michael kindly integrated the full feature in the latest nightly > (04/26), so here is a reminder of what it does > > Hi, I don't see this in the nightly builds, the most recent I see is 25/04 (I usually go here for the builds http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-26 Thread philippe_44
So, Michael kindly integrated the full feature in the latest nightly (04/26), so here is a reminder of what it does Persistent & Cache have the same objective: make your "long" connection more reliable. A lot of servers today expect people to not stream for long time (except webradio of course)

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-19 Thread philippe_44
slimhase wrote: > Could you maybe also consider making the location of that cache-file > selectable? > That way, one could store it on a harddrive-location i.e., where the > musiklibrary is stored and thus move that cache-writing action away from > SD-Cards (-> when running LMS on a raspi) > >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-19 Thread philippe_44
bpa wrote: > I thought "persistent" HTTP connections ( my understanding is TCP > connection kept open between GETs) was already enabled when you > implemented HTTP 1.1 ? No, I mean you're right that HTTP 1.1 is available now in LMS but 1.1 just means that the underlying TCP socket will not be c

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-18 Thread bpa
philippe_44 wrote: > Fingers crossed but I think I've found a really neat solution that > enables "persistent" HTTP connection on the core of LMS, I thought "persistent" HTTP connections ( my understanding is TCP connection kept open between GETs) was already enabled when you implemented HTTP 1

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-18 Thread slimhase
philippe_44 wrote: > I can easily limit the size of the file as the solution today naturally > falls back to direct streaming. > > The other method - to have a separated background http session that we > would restart (as I do in reliable plugin) - it's difficult to make it a > package that oth

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-18 Thread slartibartfast
philippe_44 wrote: > Fingers crossed but I think I've found a really neat solution that > enables "persistent" HTTP connection on the core of LMS, while we can > still keep the "buffered" option. Have a look here > https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/591. This requires a lot > more verif

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-17 Thread philippe_44
Fingers crossed but I think I've found a really neat solution that enables "persistent" HTTP connection on the core of LMS, while we can still keep the "buffered" option. Have a look here https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/591. This requires a lot more verification, still. I need to also

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread philippe_44
bpa wrote: > I know we can't/shouldn't stop playing of exceptional files but if we > can some measure of protection to avoid LMS crashes or at least provide > a trace it'll make our lives easier. I can easily limit the size of the file as the solution today naturally falls back to direct stream

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread bpa
mherger wrote: > > My worry is that such a file would occupy lots of space in Cache and > > then an additional track cause DB activity or expansion of cache.db > > which wants a bit more space so then LMS can crash with "disk full" > > Ok, we should probably have some upper limit, just to preve

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread Michael Herger
My worry is that such a file would occupy lots of space in Cache and then an additional track cause DB activity or expansion of cache.db which wants a bit more space so then LMS can crash with "disk full" Ok, we should probably have some upper limit, just to prevent the bigger issue of a crash.

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread bpa
mherger wrote: > > What are the criteria used to decide to save the file - e.g. Header > > Content-Length ? An upper limit may be useful as some podcast etc > > include video which greatly inflate the file size. > > Criteria currently only is a defined length. But no matter the length. > What

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread Michael Herger
What are the criteria used to decide to save the file - e.g. Header Content-Length ? An upper limit may be useful as some podcast etc include video which greatly inflate the file size. Criteria currently only is a defined length. But no matter the length. What size would such video files have

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread bpa
I haven't looked at the code of this feature . What are the criteria used to decide to save the file - e.g. Header Content-Length ? An upper limit may be useful as some podcast etc include video which greatly inflate the file size. What other criteria must be met beside the pref for this featu

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-16 Thread philippe_44
Paul Webster wrote: > Quick question ... is it storing chunks in separate files and then > removing played ones as it goes or trying to store the whole "track" in > one file? > > If the latter then one issue that might occur is running out of storage > space when playing something very long. >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-15 Thread Paul Webster
Quick question ... is it storing chunks in separate files and then removing played ones as it goes or trying to store the whole "track" in one file? If the latter then one issue that might occur is running out of storage space when playing something very long. FYI ... I know of shows on MixCloud

[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Looking for feedback on streaming feature

2021-04-15 Thread philippe_44
We are trying an improvement in 8.2 to handle servers that don't like long streaming sessions and instead would like to have the whole file downloaded as quickly as possible and then close the session.It uses the cache repository of LMS to buffer the file under a tmp/ repository (so be aware that