[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
On Apr 14, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: > Medium to large organisations, in particular, tend to extract labour from > consistent (if unextraordinary) output of everyday do-gooders, and not the > more stochastic and volatile heroics of open-source superstars. Sorry, I meant to say

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
> On Apr 14, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Mahmood Alkhalil > wrote: > > You are right Alex, it is all on premise! > > We were offered to move it to cloud, and yes they asked for a lot… The economics of public cloud providers depend on oversubscribing physical hardware with lots of small, and mostly

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Mahmood Alkhalil via sr-users
] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software > On Apr 14, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Jawaid Bazyar via sr-users > wrote: > > Mahmood, are you paying for that resource in something like AWS? That would > be big $$$! Given that he said: "...

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
> On Apr 14, 2024, at 12:19 PM, Mahmood Alkhalil > wrote: > > Thank you for the insights Alex! > > Now that I give it more attention, the need for employees with the required > skillset would be challenging to find. And wouldn't like the company to > suffer incase skilled personals leave.

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Mahmood Alkhalil via sr-users
: Sunday, April 14, 2024 7:18 PM To: Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List Cc: Alex Balashov Subject: [SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software Mahmood, Alas, the business case for open-source telephony solutions is not self-evident. Of course

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
Excellent analysis, Jawaid. I would add only that, in my opinion, a lot of the argument for open-source related to control over one's destiny lies in APIs, connectors and integration paths. There are some value-added telephony services which rely heavily on these, so there is a lot of

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
> On Apr 14, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Jawaid Bazyar via sr-users > wrote: > > Mahmood, are you paying for that resource in something like AWS? That would > be big $$$! Given that he said: "... DSP devices for PRI lines and media resources for phones which is using almost an entire rack" I doubt

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Jawaid Bazyar via sr-users
st to ring a deskphone when someone calls you on Teams.. > -- > *From:* Fred Posner > *Sent:* Sunday, April 14, 2024 6:54:49 PM > *To:* Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List > *Cc:* Mahmood Alkhalil > *Subject:* Re: [SR-Users] Real life examples of cost saving from using > Kamai

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
Hello, > On Apr 14, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Mahmood Alkhalil via sr-users > wrote: > > The cost saving that will be the main reason before licenses is the amount of > hardware resources currently used, the system we are using in total is using > around 128 GB of RAM, 64 cores of CPU, and total of

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Jawaid Bazyar via sr-users
Hi Mahmood, I think FOSS often trades licensing/purchase costs for operational costs. Sure, the software is "free" but because such software is rarely an exact fit for your use case off the shelf, you have to spend time (money) to: customize for your operation integrate into other operational

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Mahmood Alkhalil via sr-users
just to ring a deskphone when someone calls you on Teams.. From: Fred Posner Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 6:54:49 PM To: Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List Cc: Mahmood Alkhalil Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Fred Posner via sr-users
I think it’s misguided to approach FOSS as a cost savings move. Of course this is an obvious benefit with the main easily detected benefit being the lack of any cost for the software itself and no licensing / recurring license fees. -- Fred Posner Sent from mobile Phone: +1 (352) 664-3733

[SR-Users] Re: Real life examples of cost saving from using Kamailio and other FOSS SIP software

2024-04-14 Thread Alex Balashov via sr-users
Mahmood, Alas, the business case for open-source telephony solutions is not self-evident. Of course, being invested in open-source, we'd all like to think so. But this is a reflection of our own competencies. I have seen open-source telephony succeed massively, and deliver improved