Sorry, folks, but I assumed that everyone reads Garden Railways or
Steam in the Garden or Finescale Railroader or the Narrow Gauge
and Short Line Gazette. I think those are the places Trackside
advertises, but in looking at the last GR I notice that they don't have
an ad there! Looks like Ka
Yup.
The Auto industry has been using it since it was first cast. (They MAY even
be responsible for it's development, but I'm not sure about that.)
Many of your 2000 model cars STILL use it for certain things. I know my '98
Caravan has exterior door handles made of it.
It chrome plates well, an
Yeah Harley, I'm likewise appreciative of what Vance is doing. He's a source
of info that keeps the spirit alive.
I don't think the craftsmen have disappeared tho, they are just in
alternative pursuits.
Here in Hawaii where we have some of the best steam engineers in the
business. But... they ar
White metal is usually an alloy of tin, lead or antimony used such as
bearing, type and babbitt metals. This defination is from the Metals
Handbook 1948 ed. A more common usage is in die castings made of zinc based
alloys. This alloy usually has 4% Al and a small amount of Cu and Mg.
Hope thi
Hi Vance,
Glad to see someone sorting out the Live Steam magazine index. I stumbled on
a pile of old ones a few years ago and they have been a bible, especially
the articles on the steam engine that must have come from old apprentice
manuals.
Live Steam used to (?) advertise back issue microfil
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:14 PM
Subject: Scale/gauge
> Well, here we go again! > Let's not try to standardize everything. >
Well said, Walt, except for milkbones-they
Yes and no; H0 and N are scales, not gauges.
H0 is 1/87 scale (that's a real foot reduced to 3.5 mm ) so everything in H0
is 1/87 the size of the real thing.
H0 scale models of standard gauge trains won't run on the same track as an
H0 scale model of 3' gauge trains. But you could add a third rail
Jim
The scale 7/8" in decimals is 0.875" and this is the scale to 12" in a
foot.
So 12 inches in the foot = 13.7 Scale
,875"
2. 45 mm track = 45 mm= 1.77"
25.4 mm/inch
3. In 1: 13.7 scale the
Well, yeah Walt, I know the feeling. And I think that's where us 'newbies'
come in. We're too naive at this point to know all this gauge and scale
stuff, and too new to really care.
Truth is...
Here's what I care about...
I LOVE the idea of a model Steam engine.
I Love the old trains.
If I can pu
It's for modeling 24" prototype gauge on G-gauge track.
G-gauge is 45 mm or 1.77"
so the desired scale is 24" divided by 1.77" which is 13.56 (ok not exactly
13.7)
so a real foot is reduced to 12" / 13.66 which is .885"
and since that's real close to 7/8" or .875" it's commonly called 7/8 scale.
In a message dated 01/28/00 7:17:40 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< and let's all of us have fun doing our own
thing! PLEASE? >>
Well stated Walt! I wholeheartedly agree with all that you said. [Sure glad
you didn't hold back...8-) ] It would be good for you. Give
Fellows ,
The scale is 45 mil track as two foot gauge .. 1 3/4 inches /2 = 7/8inch/
ft. AKA 22.5 mil scale .. as one half of 45 mil ..
Have Fun - Charley
--
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Ok if it is 1:13.7 where did the 7/8" scale come from? What does it equate
>to? and why?
>
Well, here we go again! Every list or group I've subscribed to in the last 5
or so years has had a scale/gauge war. In many cases enemies have been made,
innuendo is absurd, most people get confuseder and confuseder, and a whole
lot of electrons are severely bounced around to accomplish nothing
In a message dated 1/28/00 6:10:44 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< As long as you can distinguish it from water. >>
Water that is the stuff that plugs your tubes.
bill
In a message dated 01/28/00 5:58:28 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Jim Can I color my alcohol with orange or tomato juice?? >>
As long as you can distinguish it from water.
Ok guys I was just yanking your chain about a new scale. I just wish we
could come to a meeting of the minds and establish just two scales-- one for
standard guage and one for narrow guage. I won't bring it up again.
Jim Can I color my alcohol with orange or tomato juice??
Another alcohol option we've found down here in Texas -- go to marine (boat)
store and get alcohol for stoves. Cost a 3 x's hardware stuff but appears to
burn cleaner. Probably all have about the same caloric value. Also ANY
alcohol which is left uncovered (including the stuff in your engine
Don,
According to those in the know (not me) the ACE alcohol won't hurt
your engines.
However, I just did some reading from the ACE can and the front says
"PURE" Denatured Alcohol, however the back says "Contains Ethanol, Methanol,
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone, Ethyl Acetate, Rubber Solv
> Actually they are 3/4" scale and run on 3-1/2" gauge track!
Whoops, sorry. The books include conversion plans to 1" and 1.5"
scale, but they were originally 3/4" scale.
-vance-
In a message dated 1/28/2000 5:08:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 1" scale is widely used in small-scale live steam, by the way.
> Kozo's famous engines are all 1" scale, standard gauge. But
> beware, they run on either 4.75" or 5" gauge track.
Actually they are
In a message dated 1/28/2000 11:59:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Aw, shoot, why don't we skip the railroad model altogether and
> stick with building only locomotives?
>
Vance,
You've got my vote on that one!! The locomotives are what I'm interested in,
irrespectiv
Wow, thanks for the update. I was just getting ready to request a new
catalogue. That boy needs a website
Jim
Folks,
I just got an update to the Trackside Details list (you have to ask for
it occasionally -- they don't get sent out automatically).
I asked specifically about some parts Pete Thorp brought to a
steamup last year. These are special order parts, and Pete says
that they haven't had much
> I think I am going to rebel and start a 2" guage.
I like that idea...
> I am going to call if F guage, use code 332 rails set on 2" between
> the rails. In that case everything could be 1 inch to 1 foot.
...but you're too late on that one. "F" was already applied to 1:20.3
by the NMRA s
I guess I'd have to ditto that part about not messing with track width.
Think of the nightmare steamups would turn into.
Lee
http://www.hopwood-hill.com/mpcs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Phil. Paskos
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:
O.K.O.K. When I first got on this list I asked questions about all
this. My background was from H-O and since I am a Reading Railroad Steam fan
was going batty with all this, since I am a rivet counter in that gauge.
Since then I've adapted the attitude that if it looks good and you're having
I didn't see Jerry's comments about Ace alcohol. Since I just bought a new
quart can I would like to know if I'm doing any harm to by steamers.
Don Plasterer
I think I am going to rebel and start a 2" guage. I am going to call if F
guage, use code 332 rails set on 2" between the rails. In that case
everything could be 1 inch to 1 foot.
Actually 3/4" to 1 foot is the easiest to use as 1/16" on a rule equals 1
inch in scale. this 1:20.3 is redi
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have I got this right? The 7/8" scale relates to the 2 foot real life
> track. In other words the 7/8" scale makes equipment running on guage 1
> (45mm) track equate to real life trains running on 2 foot guage .
Yep. Maybe if you think of
> Is HO and N guage involved in the same situation with several different scales??
Yep.
> Model Railroaders arise--We need to standardize.!!
Yep.
-vance-
Hi Sam (dustless)
I had a momentary puzzle on your SWMBO reference. I am an "Rumple of the Old
Bailey" fan from a way back.
When there is scale talk about superheated steam in LS20.3 or ??. How many
degrees above saturation temp do most operate at? Do your engines have any
form of superheat?
Here are some options for replacement of "Ace Hardware" alcohol.
1. How about using Everclear or Clear Spring 190 proof. Then you would have
something to add to your morning coffee or orange juice for a little eye
opener as well as power your locomotives. Of course one must keep in mind
Have I got this right? The 7/8" scale relates to the 2 foot real life
track. In other words the 7/8" scale makes equipment running on guage 1
(45mm) track equate to real life trains running on 2 foot guage .
I really am having difficulty understanding why there have to be so many
d
Lets really confuse the issue and come up with a guage 1.2 with a 2
inch track spacing.
> Ok if it is 1:13.7 where did the 7/8" scale come from? What does it equate
> to? and why?
7/8" on the model represents 1 foot on the prototype. If you divide
7/8 inche by 12 inches, you get the ratio 1:13.7. Or, another way to
look at it is 22.5mm/ft (gauge 1 45mm track representing 2 fe
> ... trying to find Pharmaceutical
> grade Alcohol for next year. Does anyone know the problem with the "Ace
> Hardware" grade of denatured alcohol?
I can't imagine why we would need medical grade alcohol, either.
All we're going to do is burn it. It may be that the purity is the key
issue.
It came from 7/8" on the model equals 12" (1 foot) on the prototype.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: scale
>Ok if it is 1:13.7 where did t
Hi everyone,
While reading Jerry Reshew's recent letter on Diamondhead 2000
statistics and wrapup, I noticed that he was trying to find Pharmaceutical
grade Alcohol for next year. Does anyone know the problem with the "Ace
Hardware" grade of denatured alcohol (other than the horrible fum
Ok if it is 1:13.7 where did the 7/8" scale come from? What does it equate
to? and why?
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