Re: TRACTIVE EFFORT (WAS DRIVER DIAMETER)

2000-02-20 Thread Michael Martin
According to Martin Evans in his book "Manual of Steam Locomotive Construction", 1 lb. of drawbar pull will haul a train of 30 lb. weight on level track. Bear in mind that the book deals with Gauge One through 7 1/2" gauge locomotives and focuses mainly on the larger scales. I have also seen in

Re: Butane Fuel

2000-02-20 Thread Joe Betsko
Hello! I go to a cigar shop where I buy Lucienne brand triple refined butane in a 13 oz can for a msrp of US$ 3.99. Those Ronson cans are expensive! Presently, I have switched over to isobutane for the chilly months. A 6 oz can of MSR isobutane goes for US$ 4.00 at least at my local camping st

Re: New to the list

2000-02-20 Thread SaltyChief
In a message dated 00-02-20 13:12:25 EST, you write: << getting a new Roundhouse 'Fowler'. >> Chuck--I am green with envy!! enjoy your Fowler!!

Butane Fuel

2000-02-20 Thread SaltyChief
For what it is worth Department.. I just found a source of butane fuel in 7.8 oz cans at West Marine. As there are a number of these stores throught the country it should be accessable. The can says Kenyon Butane Fuel and was $3.99 each which is about the same price that I have been paying f

TRACTIVE EFFORT (WAS DRIVER DIAMETER)

2000-02-20 Thread Casey Sterbenz
How does tractive effort translate into pulling power? "Modern Locomotive Construction" (page 5) gives a grand average rule of thumb that it requires about 7-1/2 pounds of force to move each ton of train weight. How might this be translated into pulling power in terms of number of "average" c

RE: Michigan law

2000-02-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, According to section 32 below it refers to public display or use. Does this have any effect on private use in your own home or a private membership club. I can see requirements for a public displayed or riding engine because of liabilities, etc. but I bet the legislature never considered h

Re: New to the list

2000-02-20 Thread T A Gorton
on 20/2/00 6:11 pm, Charles W. Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Until today, I have > been an 'electric fan' but am now purchasing my first 'live steamer'. I am > getting a new Roundhouse 'Fowler'. I joined the list to gather as much info > as possible, meet you all and mostly to have a l

Deleting message threads you don't want ...

2000-02-20 Thread David M. Cole
At 10:12 AM -0800 2/20/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >After deleting most of my forwards from >sslivesteam, I head on over to there where the topics are of interest and few >arguments ensue. An e-mail technical note: if an argument starts and I haven't had a chance to end it (or I personally am pa

Re: What can we do about Michigan Boiler Code?

2000-02-20 Thread Geoff Spenceley
A good thought, Jeff,!! Yes, there is a lot of stuff outside our hobby that is discussed at length and it somewhat irritates me.. On the other hand, some of those same members have given me invaluable info so I'll ride the waves! I believe steam pressure and regulations that may restrict our ho

First Run!

2000-02-20 Thread Ktaylorlv
Hello list! Last night at about 6:00 PM EST, my under construction Aster C&S mogul breathed it's first breath. While not quite as involved as some of the large scale projects of mine, I certainly felt a sense of accomplishment when those tiny little drivers started whirring away! The bulk of th

Re: Michigan Boiler Code

2000-02-20 Thread Ktaylorlv
In a message dated 2/20/2000 12:35:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have > deputized list member Keith Taylor to approach Marty Knox to find out his > thinking on the topic and have asked Keith to get back to the list. Hello List! I have a request in to Marty regardi

Re: Mich Tempest in our teapots

2000-02-20 Thread VR Bass
> It all boils down to this (forgive the pun) somewhere along the line > some idiot who should not be handling hot or sharp objects got ahold of one > of these small boilers and blew it up, injuring himself and possibly others > in the process. Nope, it has never happened and probably ne

Re: What can we do about Michigan Boiler Code?

2000-02-20 Thread Btflco
In a message dated 2/20/2000 9:41:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Is this board more for the larger scale ride on steam engines. >> This board offers a way to communicate on all topics from O scale / Gauge 1 up to the ride on railways. After deleting most of my forwar

New to the list

2000-02-20 Thread Charles W. Walters
Hello Everyone, My name is Chuck Walters. I live in upstate New York. 38 years old. I have been into large scale trains since 1987. I have a garden railway in my back yard of about 200' of mainline and two sidings. Until today, I have been an 'electric fan' but am now purchasing my first 'li

Re: Mich Tempest in our teapots

2000-02-20 Thread SaltyChief
So for now those of us who do not live in Michigan, should not be concerned about it. If you do live there keep it under the table. I would give odds that the Boiler inspectors in Michigan don't want to be screwing around with a bunch of minature locomotives or thier owners. And as Marc

Re: Michigan Boiler Code

2000-02-20 Thread Btflco
In a message dated 2/20/2000 9:35:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Let's hold our opinions until we get some real information. >> THANK YOU!!! Jeff B.

Re: What can we do about Michigan Boiler Code?

2000-02-20 Thread SaltyChief
In a message dated 00-02-20 01:02:59 EST, you write: << Anyone can get ahold of Marty on the Live Steam Chaski board or e/mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Is this board more for the larger scale ride on steam engines. I will have to take a look when I have more time. Getting evil eye from wife

Re: Michigan Boiler Code

2000-02-20 Thread David M. Cole
All hands: I'd appreciate it if you would, um, simmer down on this one. I have deputized list member Keith Taylor to approach Marty Knox to find out his thinking on the topic and have asked Keith to get back to the list. Let's hold our opinions until we get some real information. Thanks. ---

Re: Digital Images

2000-02-20 Thread SaltyChief
Damn-this is as bad as the hornets nest I stirred up about the metric weights and measurements. I have a digital and a 35 mm SLR camera and use both frequently.. The quality of the digital photos is and always will be inferior to a good quality photograph taken with a 35 mm SLR. Th

Re: Mich Tempest in our teapots

2000-02-20 Thread Ian McKinley
At 09:54 AM 2/20/2000 EST, you wrote: >I have absolutely no training in any of the stuff lawyers do, but Rule 47 (c) >seems to exempt us from any of this stuff. We are using it as a HOBBY, we are >not a vehicle because we cannot readily carry human passengers, and as far as >I know, do not enga

Mich Tempest in our teapots

2000-02-20 Thread WaltSwartz
I have absolutely no training in any of the stuff lawyers do, but Rule 47 (c) seems to exempt us from any of this stuff. We are using it as a HOBBY, we are not a vehicle because we cannot readily carry human passengers, and as far as I know, do not engage in inter or intra state commerce. As Gr