I suspect that the reason litigation was far from the TE owner's mind
was that the machine was probably legally insured without inspection as
per your comment' so from that point of view he was covered. I wonder
how many garden railway steamologists have 3rd party insurance? Apart
from the
Clue, loco was built in 1954 as part of a gift to Sierra Leone (former
colony)from the UK, on getting its independence. The basic design IIRC
dates to the 1890's?. N#ow that would age me!!
Best
Sam E
Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Sam,
The prototype two years younger than you? doesn't that make
Bede and all,
As far as I can determine the lack of "live steam in the garden" or garden railroading at all is that most poeple are not aware of either Neither run "out of the box".Both take a fair amount of effort and dare I say "commitment" to a long term project. Along with these aspects,
In a message dated 6/13/2004 3:09:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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my point is that the
dearth of live steam in garden/back yard railroadways in the US is
probably
due to something other than fears of litigation- perhaps LGB as Sam
mentions, and other gauge 1
Well, well Young Sam,
I'm 32 yrs older than the Hunslet--hell, I'm closer to the 1890 design!
Wheezing Groan
Geoff,
It'sClue, loco was built in 1954 as part of a gift to Sierra Leone (former
colony)from the UK, on getting its independence. The basic design IIRC
dates to the 1890's?. N#ow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Imported steam - can the US compete?
My observation, from the perspective of switching to a garden railroad
in
the '90s
, 2004 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Imported steam - can the US compete?
My observation, from the perspective of switching to a garden railroad
in
the '90s, is that the US didn't have the 2' prototypes and therefore
the SM32
concept was a non-starter. So the simple Roundhouse-type live
steamers
In a message dated 6/13/2004 11:13:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 6/13/2004 3:09:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
my point is that the
dearth of live steam in garden/back yard railroadways in the US is
probably
due to
The only way to beat low-labor-cost manufacturers is to maximize
automation and minimize labor costs so that shipping costs and delays
from overseas negate the labor cost competitiveness of imports.
Ahem, so how does any one afford to buy anything when they are either a)
out of work b)
On 12/6/04 4:46 am, Daniel McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is Aster actually Made in Japan? I cannont say, I've never seen one up
close. As far as small production runs, seems that both Cheddar and
Roundhouse are able to do it. There are a few more to be sure. Never say
it's
From: Sam Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am surprised a little bit that no Roundhouse clone has sprung up in
the US, you have a far greater potential market. In the UK we suspect
that high product liability insurance in your highly litigious country
may have put
On 12/6/04 8:46 am, Bede McCormack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Sam Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am surprised a little bit that no Roundhouse clone has sprung up in
the US, you have a far greater potential market. In the UK we suspect
that high product
It probably has more to do with what re-sparked the interest in garden
railways in both countries.
In the UK it is commonly credited to Stuart Browne of Archangel Models
who made affordable 16mm 'scale' live steamers that WORKED in a garden
environment. He had his apostles who wrote in the
Oh yes, and what is less gratifying about preparing and firing up a loco
and 8 mins later having a REAL steam engine to use.
If you are referring to the traction engine explosion at the State Fair;
according to the official report (copy on web), that was down to the
owner avoiding having his
Right Sam,
It was Aster and then Tom Cooper's Merlins who helped me into live steam.
Tom needs a great deal of credit as a pioneer. His Merlin Hunslet was a
terrific performer despite some minor defects. I had one for 18 years,
some repairs of course but how it steamed! Big boiler, big butane
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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:40:49 +0100
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Imported steam - can the US compete?
Oh yes, and what is less gratifying about preparing and firing up a loco
and 8 mins later having a REAL steam engine to use.
If you
At 05:05 PM 6/12/04 -0400, you wrote:
Yes, I did have the traction engine explosion in mind- I guess I was making
the tenuous assumption that if the late owner of the TE was unconcerned
enough about litigation
I would guess that the whole lot of them were unconcerned about
anything
My first loco was the Merlin Hunslet. I still have it and it still
steams. As a member of the WLLR I always thought No 85b a rather
elegant little engine when Tom did his model
A small irony, the full-sized loco is actually two years younger than
me!
Best
Sam E
Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Sam,
The prototype two years younger than you? doesn't that make you rather
old?? Heck, it must be 50 yrs younger than me!!
I sold my two Merlins to Tom Toth, gotta raise money for those expensive
Asters as I prefer 1/32 scale. Expensive is right tho', we live in a shack
in the woods, our autos
Wasn't ASTER a manufacturer of mechanical calculators who switched to
live steam locos after electronic calculators took over their market?
In the US, Marchant Calculators Inc. couldn't figure out what to do with
their capability to manufacture lots of very small precision moving
parts and
somewhere. Food for thought, you just never know...
From: Jeffrey Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Imported steam - can the US compete? Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:15:32 -0700 Wasn't ASTER a ma
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