Hi All,
I have to tell this one.
In the mid/late'60's, Canada switched to metrics. We were all yelling and
screaming about being forced to use it, but the schools were well into the
system. I was on a flight from Vancouver to Toronto and we landed in Regina,
on the prairies, right in the middle
In a message dated 2/16/2000 10:15:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Personally, I prefer to learn more. New things aren't always useful right
> away. Sometimes they're never useful. Sometimes, though, they're just
> what I need to know.
Some of this talk has made my
In a message dated 00-02-16 10:02:59 EST, you write:
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This is strange to me!!! I was always told that round inches were a
little larger than square inches. I will do some reaea
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
>
> It seems to me that some members of our group like to get very technical on
> some subjects reaching far beyond the requirements of our little engines.
> The subject matter goes back and forth and gets beaten to death . It is my
> belief that so
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If you want mass try
> kg/m3 (SI unit).
That's density - mass per unit volume.
--
Bill Kaiser
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There are three ways to do a job: good, cheap, and quick.
You can have any two.
A good, cheap job won't be quick.
A good, quick job
Lee,
I'm sure this won't be an answer worthy of a round of shots but . . .
13 PSI on a .6" dia bore cylinder yields about 8 1/2 lbs main rod force.
200 PSA on a 20" dia bore cylinder yields about 63,000 lbs main rod force.
The square inches are bigger. Now if you want to see your
"Phil. Paskos" wrote:
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> By the way Clark, How does your burner fit in the boiler? Mine
> is a bit looser than I'd like.
Mine is snug. You can tighten it some by taping close the copper flange
on the boiler tube. I have several projects ahead of the K4 fix so it
will be a time before I
Amen, Peter!
Geoff.
At 03:01 PM 00-02-15 -0500, Bill Keuhsel wrote:
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>>Sorry again, but you are wrong. I will quote to you from "Fundamentals of
>>Physics" by Halliday & Resnick, third edition, John Wiley publisher, page
>>86.
>>This is a text used in engineering schools, and Resnick was/is a
he answer I was looking for.
>
>AND...
>
>I thank EVERYONE for their input on this, including the digression into
>measuring systems.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lee
>
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Not to make you feel bad Lee, but it's only the later steam engines that ran
on 200 to 300 Lbs. of pressure. The early engines ran on a lot less. Some
things scale down the way you think they should. others don't.
Phil.P. Reading,Pa.
> Now... If we're done with this bar room brawl over weight
nts of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Nightmare Units
>Well that explains it. I live on the WINDWARD side of Oahu.
>
>I take full responsibility for the mess here on this issue. (heh heh)
>
>Now... If we're done with th
O.K.Clark;
Thanks for the info. I will call them and get the gauge. I measured the
glass and according to Sulphur Springs the 6mm glass is what we'll need. The
fun part comes in identifying the threads on the fitting. The assembly
manual calls it 8-3. This is further identified as an M6 lockn
on into
measuring systems.
Thanks,
Lee
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Clark Lord and Pete Foley hit the nail on th
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>Now... If we're done with this bar room brawl<
Is that a pun on the discussion - "bar" room brawl?
>can somebody PL
At 03:01 PM 00-02-15 -0500, Bill Keuhsel wrote:
>Sorry again, but you are wrong. I will quote to you from "Fundamentals of
>Physics" by Halliday & Resnick, third edition, John Wiley publisher, page 86.
>This is a text used in engineering schools, and Resnick was/is a professor at
Please don'
>Now... If we're done with this bar room brawl<
Is that a pun on the discussion - "bar" room brawl?
>can somebody PLEASE tell me why my little 13
POUND Loco requires at least 30 Pounds of steam pressure to even move, while
200 Pounds of steam will drive a multi-ton critter?<
Your 9/16 diamete
In a message dated 2/15/00 1:47:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< Sorry, Mass should not be confused with weight. Mass and weight are two
different quantities. >>
I do not want to seem to be a smart-ass but, sir, according to the
Machinery's Handbook 21st edi
Clark Lord and Pete Foley hit the nail on the head concerning bars/kg/cm2.
Of course Clark usually does hit the nail on the head--squarely!! For our
hobby, there is nothing complicated about the conversion. Multiply 14.7
(or even 15) by the reading on the kg/cm2 and you have psi. or vice versa.
s.
Smiles,
Lee
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In a message dated 00-02-15 13:25:46 EST, you write:
<< Nei
In a message dated 00-02-15 13:25:46 EST, you write:
<< Neither Walt. It's the amount of pressure needed to open a Bud or Coors
or Miller's.:) >>
No, now your getting into pascals (Pa) and angular velocity (rad/s2) to
open a can of Bud. Also if you stay to the leeward side of the islands th
I am sorry I got into the middle of this mess. I really gotta learn to
not respond to touchy subjects.Just remember 25.4.
It is all Lee's fault, he is the one that brought it up.
I AM SORRY AND APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE WHO I MAY HAVE OFFENDED!!
Crotochity ol' Lloyd
In a message dated 00-02-15 08:34:03 EST, you write:
<< Sorry, Mass should not be confused with weight. Mass and weight are two
different quantities. >>
I do not want to seem to be a smart-ass but, sir, according to the
Machinery's Handbook 21st edition (the handiest reference I had ava
Neither Walt. It's the amount of pressure needed to open a Bud or Coors
or Miller's.:)
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> Is that at mean sea level, or atop Mt. Everest?
Lets all just face reality. Some things you can scale to size and some
things you can't. Just make it look good, to hell with being accurate and to
scale.
Metric and English measurements will be around for the rest of most of
our lives we are just going to have to deal with it.
Is that at mean sea level, or atop Mt. Everest?
Well 'they' are winning but slowly. I am just back from a visit to Warco just
outside Guildford, England, suppliers of Chinese & Taiwanese lathes & mills &
I asked them what proportions of metric & imperial specified machines they
sold. The reply was 60/40 in favour of metric, 'tho at the Yorks
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 2/14/00 5:16:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> << Beg your pardon Kg is a weight unit in metric and therefore convertable to
> pounds >>
>
>
> Sorry, Mass should not be confused with weight. Mas
In a message dated 2/14/00 5:16:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Beg your pardon Kg is a weight unit in metric and therefore convertable to
pounds >>
Sorry, Mass should not be confused with weight. Mass and weight are two
different quantities. Mass is a term used
ry 14, 2000 6:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: Re: Nightmare Units
I think of bars or kg/cm2 as atmospheres. Loosely translated, multiply
the bar reading by 15 (really 14.7 psi on a standard day at sea level).
Therefore when you see 4 kg/cm2 it's around 60 psi or 3
Just the physics of what I see, that's all.
Lee
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Beg your pardon Kg
The published figures in Aster's manual.
Lee
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phil. I too have a K4 that needs the same mod. I haven't done it yet.
But you asked about thread gauges. I got my dual Metric / SAE gauge
from Travers Tool Co. On page 613 of their catalog one finds Screw
Pitch Gages by Products Engineering Co (PEC) tools in several
combinations. Model 5629
I think of bars or kg/cm2 as atmospheres. Loosely translated, multiply
the bar reading by 15 (really 14.7 psi on a standard day at sea level).
Therefore when you see 4 kg/cm2 it's around 60 psi or 3 kg/cm2 is around
45 psi and so on. Close enough for live steamers out running at the
track. If
I bought an Aster K4 and want to make the sight glass mod to it. The
original is to low and when you can see the line at the top of the glass
you're already to low on water. The problem is figuring out what the thread
sizes are on the fitting that has to be moved up. It's 6mm (I think), but
the As
At 02:51 PM 00-02-14 -0500, you wrote:
>Let's stick with the real world and use PSI.
I think you need to re-think this one, Bill. North America, and to a
lesser extent the UK, is/are the last bastion(s) where this terminology is
in regular use. The rest of the world use 'bars' or kg/cm2, or so
Beg your pardon Kg is a weight unit in metric and therefore convertable to
pounds. I know how confusing it gets, as the company I was working for
prior to retirement was converting our documentation to metric units. You
should see some of the other measurements that they can come up with,
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