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>SNIP< Watch a engine while going through a #4 or #6 and you
will see it do three distinct bumps as the drivers encounter the three
straight sections. It's less noticeable on #8, 10's because the
sections are much longer. But they are still there. (
002 10:42 PM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: Re: Clearances between tracks
I second Steve's assertion! (-:
see http://www.panyo.com/bloom/images/1Z080022.jpg
Michael Martin
http://www.panyo.com/steamups
Clark and interested others of the list,
I use data scaled down from AREA drawings as well as data from a wonderful
little book entitled "Simplified Curve and Switch Work" by W. F. Rench,
formerly Supervisor on the Pennsylvania Railroad. This handbook, printed in
1928, provided "Valuable and nece
I second Steve's assertion! (-:
see http://www.panyo.com/bloom/images/1Z080022.jpg
Michael Martin
http://www.panyo.com/steamups
Thanks for the kind words. I've been at this (gauge one live steam) now
for 12 years. I've built several large elevated tracks. All my track
is really level and I use transition curves going in and out of large
turns. I super elevate the curves using craft sticks under the outside
edge of the
Hi Clark
That is a very good summary of the situation - -I'm saving it to quote to
the next query I have on this problem. I like the concept of "a narrow roof
with track rather than a table" - it might stop some of the "N gauge
thinking" of packing as much into the space as possible.
A commen
Jeffrey Williams wrote:
> My soon-to-be-built track is planned to have 10 foot minimum radius curves
> and 8 inch center to center track distance.
I had that thought also (10 foot curves) when I built my track. It was
beaten into my head that 10 feet was the minimum radius for Aster
engines. So
Clark:
Your measurement of the Accucraft K-27 is interesting - that scales to 10
foot 6 7/8 inches prototype dimensions at 20.3:1. The only text I have on
D&RGW locos (Norwood) shows a width over the cylinders for the K-27 of 9
foot 5 3/4 inches, which indicates there is another foot or more of
Well I've been thinking about all this for some time now. I measured
Soni Honegger's engine at DH this year and found it to be 3.5 inches
from the rail centerline to the outermost part of the cylinder chests.
That makes it a 7 inch wide loco.
Additionally I measured an Accucraft Electric K 27
et to plan for the clearances required to accommodate the various
scales of visiting locos.
Steve
Hey Jeff-
Make sure there's room for that live steam K-27 I'm going to buy ;)
-Eric Maschwitz
www.grabiron.com
Jeffrey, try:
http://www.urbaneagle.com/data/
This site has a lot of stuff. Jim Burns
Jeffrey Williams wrote:
> I recall either a website or a message to this group that had some
> suggestions as to minimum track-to-track centerline distances on
> double-tracked straight sections and for curves
I recall either a website or a message to this group that had some
suggestions as to minimum track-to-track centerline distances on
double-tracked straight sections and for curves of various radii and for
a selection of scales running on Ga1 track
Anyone recall that site or have that info handy?
I tried to show it to her, but she wouldn't look...next time, by golly!
And just where should we send the memorials?
This is gonna be good!!
Later,
Trent
Jesse Grimmer wrote:
>I am going to be brave and just tell her how it is going to be!! I won't be
>denied!!
>
>
Trent et al.
Back in the dim history of our livesteam hobby there was a fellow named
Victor Shaddock. He modeled in 1/2" scale in Oakland Ca. His layout was in
his huge basement, and the legendary steamups he held were remarkable in
that the attendees wore raincoats and storm hats..
Cheers, E
I am going to be brave and just tell her how it is going to be!! I won't be
denied!!
Jess,
Luv it--let us know what happens--IF- that is; -you are in physical
condition to do so!
Geoff
Geoff,
>I printed that out and am going to show it to my wife when she gets home
>from earning my living today!
>Jess
>
>
Geoff,
I printed that out and am going to show it to my wife when she gets home
from earning my living today!
Jess
At least I wasn't "brave" enough to show my wife the pictures!
Yes, a spare bedroom is my hobby room and I have compressed air piped in
from the garage for testing the locos--no cold shop or garage for me!
Visitors are curious!!
Geoff
iI've heard that many bedrooms are workshops . . .
>
>From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> How about the bed
Now Clark,
Everyman's house, if you ask me--if the wives complain tell them "Well, you
could live under the Taliban"!- Just in case you plan any future marriage
Clark.
Geoff.I suppose I should set the record straight. My shop is in the dinning
>room next to the kitchen. Makes getting snacks e
Jesse, I really liked Clark when I met him, but I KNOW he has already
gotten me in trouble with that picture. I think you're right.
Later,
Trent
Jesse Grimmer wrote:
>Trent, I really liked Clark when I met him, but I think he will get a lot of
>us in trouble with that picture. What do you t
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>To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: clearances
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:10:33 -0600
>
>
> Although, without her I would probably be running live steam indoors
>around the living room floor. Hmmm. No
Trent, I really liked Clark when I met him, but I think he will get a lot of
us in trouble with that picture. What do you think?
Jess
It's on a concrete floor. I have added shims under the legs as needed
to level the equipment.
Charles Brumbelow wrote:
>
> Are there any problems you've noticed due to not mounting the machine
> tools -- especially lathes -- on a concrete floor? Or is your house built
> on a slab? Charles
I do remember those days. But I have been living alone now since 1986.
That makes a big difference on what I can do with my house. Heck it
even took me two years of debate on whether I wanted to tear out the
double windows and put in the doors.
When I got a great deal on the mill I had to dr
Clark,
When I grow up I want to be just like you. It's not every man has the
cajones to do that. Consider my hat tipped!
Jess
Are there any problems you've noticed due to not mounting the machine
tools -- especially lathes -- on a concrete floor? Or is your house built
on a slab? Charles
From: "Clark Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I suppose I should set the record straight. My shop is in the dinning
> room next to the
Clark,
Oddly enough, just as the picture was coming up my wife was walking
past. I stopped her, showed her the picture and explained that it was
your dining room converted into your shop.
She said no.
Later,
Trent
Clark Lord wrote:
>Just go to http://www.steamup.com/ and
>click on t
I suppose I should set the record straight. My shop is in the dinning
room next to the kitchen. Makes getting snacks easy. For those who
have a family room / kitchen along one side of the house, just imagine
that the family room is a machine shop.
That's basically what I have have done. My
Wow! Now that opens an entirely new chapter on bachelor life. I'm jeolous!
Later,
Trent
Jesse Grimmer wrote:
>Ask Clark about a machine shop in the living room. I saw the pictures!
>
Harry,
That strikes very close to home with me as well. Both at work, and at
home.
Realization hits! I'm off to the shop!
Later,
Trent
>I think there's not
>enough years left to do them, but actually there is, if I spent the time I
>currently spend on the computer in the workshop in
I've heard that many bedrooms are workshops . . .
From: "Geoff Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How about the bedroom?
>
> Very shy Geoff.
>
> Before you get off course--A bedroom!
How about the bedroom?
Very shy Geoff.
Before you get off course--A bedroom!
Ask Clark about a machine shop in the living room. I saw the pictures!
>Jess
>
>
Ask Clark about a machine shop in the living room. I saw the pictures!
Jess
Royce,
Every time my wife mentions my garage or office, she squeezes in,
"Proof positive that there is such a thing as too much information". I
have so many books, magazines, printed material, brochures, pictures,
catalogs, etc. that I literally have boxes of it stacked on shelves.
It's u
At 06:54 AM 11/26/01 -0800, you wrote:
>prussian
The most widely used brand name is "Hi-Spot" blue #107 made by Dykem
(the layout blue people.) It's available in a .22 oz. tube and a little
goes a long way.
>Now I have more info than I have time to use it. Do other's of you have
the
Victor wrote:
> It's even possible to mate the two surfaces with no medium in between and
> just scrape off the burnished areas.
I've used this technique in making woodworking joints.
royce in SB
Hi Keith. Hope your holiday was as good as mine. And thanks for the info re :
prussian blue and scraping. Now I have more info than I have time to use it.
Do other's of you have the feeling that there's just not enough time to take
advantage of all you know? I guess that's why model railroadin
Hello Everyone,
I agree with Victor, that hand scraping is not used much anymore for
the most part. Although, hand scraping is still used quite extensively
in the precision machine building circles. I use this as a gauge that
our precision surfaces are not ULTRA precision surfaces.
If y
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To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: clearances
>snip
>By the way, will layout dye work? Or is it too thick ?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>royce in SB
>
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: clearances
> As always, Victor, your answers are illuminating. As time permits, I am
going
> to try grinding some files and using this process. Although I'm getting
the
> impression from your and Harry's inpu
At 06:58 AM 11/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Although I'm getting the impression from your and Harry's input that my
problems are more related to surface finish.
Royce,
It's difficult to say without seeing your particular "problem" first
hand, but my first guess would
As always, Victor, your answers are illuminating. As time permits, I am going
to try grinding some files and using this process. Although I'm getting the
impression from your and Harry's input that my problems are more related to
surface finish. Hence, the speed of using an abrasive will proba
ce free-running, lubricant-retentive surfaces in a matter of
seconds.
Victor Lacy
-Original Message-
From: Royce Woodbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, November 23, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: clearances
>snip<
Victor and Harry. Thanks to you both for your erudite thoughts on clearances.
You have done me a GREAT service. I've been trying to work to .001's (plus or
minus .0005). And I will continue to do so. But knowing how to address the
final fit (with surface finish refinements) helps
Very good points you've touched on, Harry. Size effects the tolerance.
Although, my wife has convinced me of the opposite. I have a big
attitude, and she has a very small tolerance for it. (Sorry, couldn't
resist a "funny")
Later,
Trent
Harry Wade wrote:
>The difference between sweet running
ll be dramatic, as well as the
change in appearance of the surfaces involved.
Victor Lacy
-Original Message-
From: Royce Woodbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:33 PM
Subject: clearances
>
>
'thou or less found their work
although beautiful would not run. In every case the chassis had to be
dismantled and relieved to provide working clearances in a number of areas.
Axlebox journals and horns and connecting rods tend to be the areas which
almost always need attention. There are th
Victor Lacy wrote:
the clearance between bush and pin is what it should be--.0002" or less.
Is that REALLY .0002" ? or should that be .002" ? I just finished making an
eccentric and strap last night. The strap was reamed to .500 and the eccentric
was turned to .499 and they do NOT turn wi
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