[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0177 (Jingle Raw UDP Transport)

2007-06-25 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.7 of XEP-0177 (Jingle Raw UDP Transport) has been released. Abstract: This document defines a Jingle transport method that results in sending data over a raw User Datagram Protocol (UDP) connection. Changelog: More clearly specified the hit-or-miss nature of the transport; corrected i

Re: [Standards] Searching in a server side message archive (XEP-0136)

2007-06-25 Thread Justin Karneges
On Monday 25 June 2007 5:16 pm, Stefan Reuter wrote: > Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > I think that searching or filtering is something we'd define on top of > > archives. We might use XEP-0055 for that, or something else. > > Ok. I would really like to push this a bit as I regard searching as a > cru

Re: [Standards] Searching in a server side message archive (XEP-0136)

2007-06-25 Thread Stefan Reuter
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > I think that searching or filtering is something we'd define on top of > archives. We might use XEP-0055 for that, or something else. Ok. I would really like to push this a bit as I regard searching as a crucial feature to be up with the features clients currenlty implem

[Standards] Jingle: what's left?

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
At ClueCon this week we'll have a roundtable discussion about Jingle: http://www.cluecon.com/schedule.html In preparation for that, I plan to review all the Jingle specs. But I'd appreciate it if folks on this list could also point out where they think we still have gaps. Personally I'd like to f

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > Hello > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:20:19AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> I just do not like setting hard limits in protocol when they do not come >>> out from the logic. I accept there is no need for such long names now >>> and probably will not be at any tim

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Mridul Muralidharan wrote: > > More important than the limits, imo, would be the error to be conveyed > to the client in case it set's a roster item which violates the server > policies on size. > This could potentially be reused in other places as well ... is > not-acceptable descriptive enough f

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:20:19AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > I just do not like setting hard limits in protocol when they do not come > > out from the logic. I accept there is no need for such long names now > > and probably will not be at any time, > > Why design for something t

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Mridul Muralidharan
More important than the limits, imo, would be the error to be conveyed to the client in case it set's a roster item which violates the server policies on size. This could potentially be reused in other places as well ... is not-acceptable descriptive enough for this ? If we specify this, the

Re: [Standards] Searching in a server side message archive (XEP-0136)

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Stefan Reuter wrote: > Hi, > > recently I started to develop a plugin for Openfire to support XEP-0136. > One feature that I am missing in the spec is searching the archive. > I would like to propose adding a "keyword" attribute to the list request > for that purpose. > > Does that make sense to

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Matthias Wimmer wrote: > Hi Michal! > > Michal 'vorner' Vaner schrieb: >> What is the problem with saying the server can have a limit and deny to >> perform such crazy operation. > > Sounds reasonable. Roster items are not exchanged between servers, Yet. :) What happens when we define shared ro

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > Hello > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 11:01:26AM -0400, Andrew Plotkin wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: >> >>> And it would seem more reasonable to specify (or allow servers to do so) >>> the limit of stanza? Because it is not only the roster

Re: [Standards] roster schema

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Joe Hildebrand wrote: > What do you mean by character? The operative question is, what does XML mean by character? Here http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/WD-xml-2e-2814#dt-character seems to define the scope: *** [Definition: A character is an atomic unit of text as specified by ISO/IEC 10646 [ISO/I