Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0166 (Jingle)

2007-11-12 Thread Unnikrishnan V
my fault, i was thinking in another way where XEP 166 - represent the core protocol with details on messages , not scenarios and XEP-0208 - call flows with jingle ( more scenarios ) thanx unni On Nov 12, 2007 9:20 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unnikrishnan V wrote: > > It

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0166 (Jingle)

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Unnikrishnan V wrote: > It will be nice if you can shed more light on this modification ( need > for modification ). Reason i felt is, we already have XEP-0208: > Bootstrapping Implementation of Jingle which is very incomplete. My 2 > cents for Scenarios for various session flows goes to XEP-208

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0166 (Jingle)

2007-11-12 Thread Unnikrishnan V
It will be nice if you can shed more light on this modification ( need for modification ). Reason i felt is, we already have XEP-0208: Bootstrapping Implementation of Jingle which is very incomplete. My 2 cents for Scenarios for various session flows goes to XEP-208 than XEP-0166 . XEP-0166 sho

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Dave Cridland wrote: > On Mon Nov 12 22:39:19 2007, Richard Dobson wrote: >>> I don't see an attribute 'cid' in the HTML/XHTML specs. >> >> Yea its a MIME multipart/related thing rather than HTML specifically. > > No, that'd be a cid scheme URI, surely? There's nothing in > multipart/related at al

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Dave Cridland
On Mon Nov 12 22:39:19 2007, Richard Dobson wrote: I don't see an attribute 'cid' in the HTML/XHTML specs. Yea its a MIME multipart/related thing rather than HTML specifically. No, that'd be a cid scheme URI, surely? There's nothing in multipart/related at all about HTML, it's only used a

Re: [Standards] s2s blocking of abusive users

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Alexander Gnauck wrote: > Tomasz Sterna schrieb: >> Oh. I realized that I'm being to sparse. >> >> I meant, "stopping reading for a while". >> If you allow 10kb per second, you just read no more than 10kb in a >> second and pause. Then after one second read another no more than 10kb. >> >> The TCP

Re: [Standards] s2s blocking of abusive users

2007-11-12 Thread Alexander Gnauck
Tomasz Sterna schrieb: Oh. I realized that I'm being to sparse. I meant, "stopping reading for a while". If you allow 10kb per second, you just read no more than 10kb in a second and pause. Then after one second read another no more than 10kb. The TCP buffering, timeouts and retransmission will

[Standards] XEP-0155: text

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In working on a mapping [1] of XMPP chat sessions to the Message Session Relay Protocol [2], I discovered that the use of a element in XEP-0155 is problematic: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0155.html This usage is disallowed when initiating a session negotiation but allowed when rejecting a

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Richard Dobson
I don't see an attribute 'cid' in the HTML/XHTML specs. Yea its a MIME multipart/related thing rather than HTML specifically. Richard

Re: [Standards] s2s blocking of abusive users

2007-11-12 Thread Alexander Gnauck
Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: If there is interest in such an extension, I will write up a spec for it. yes there is, +1 from me. Alex

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Tomasz Sterna wrote: > Dnia 09-11-2007, Pt o godzinie 16:55 -0700, Peter Saint-Andre pisze: >> And there's always >> http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/XHTML_Inband_Images >> too (I haven't looked at that in a while, but we might want a way to >> refer to the element from within the same stanza via

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Rachel Blackman wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Data Element Abstract: This document specifies a method

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Element

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Andreas Monitzer wrote: > On Nov 10, 2007, at 00:38, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>> URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/data-element.html >> >> See, that was easy, wasn't it? ;-) > > I can see three issues here: > 1. Your extension doesn't have any namespace Right, I wrote it up too fast,

Re: [Standards] Binary data over XMPP

2007-11-12 Thread Dave Cridland
On Sat Nov 10 02:07:08 2007, Justin Karneges wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007 3:35 pm, Dave Cridland wrote: > ubiquitous encryption Best laugh of the day! Oh, I'm not laughing. Other protocols have been fighting this battle for years. Is XMPP so much different? I can see the headlines: