Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 06/13/2008 3:45 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Here is an early version of the Jingle-streams spec: > > http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/jingle-streams.html > > Next I'll copy the e2e-streams stuff from XEP-0174 into a new spec. http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/e2e-streams.html Pete

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 06/13/2008 3:33 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 06/13/2008 3:12 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote: >> Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> 1. We modify XEP-0174 so it just defines _presence._tcp as a discovery >>> mechanism, as a result of which you have an IP address and port that you >>> can use for a direct TCP

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 06/13/2008 3:12 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> 1. We modify XEP-0174 so it just defines _presence._tcp as a discovery >> mechanism, as a result of which you have an IP address and port that you >> can use for a direct TCP connection that functions as a transport for an >> e2

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Dirk Meyer
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > 1. We modify XEP-0174 so it just defines _presence._tcp as a discovery > mechanism, as a result of which you have an IP address and port that you > can use for a direct TCP connection that functions as a transport for an > e2e XML stream. > > 2. We split the e2e XML strea

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 06/13/2008 1:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 06/09/2008 11:09 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 06/09/2008 9:50 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: >> >>> However, I got talking to Rob McQueen - there's a certain amount of >>> sense in, instead of describing this in terms of IBB, describing it in >>>

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP Transport Layer Security

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 06/09/2008 11:09 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 06/09/2008 9:50 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > >> However, I got talking to Rob McQueen - there's a certain amount of >> sense in, instead of describing this in terms of IBB, describing it in >> terms of Jingle. >> >> It's possible - and reasonable

Re: [Standards] XEP-0047 (IBB streams) and acknowledgment

2008-06-13 Thread Fabio Forno
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if existing clients and servers are that smart, but it They will be if people discover that IBB is so good in passing through firewalls. -- Fabio Forno, Ph.D. Bluendo srl http://www.bluendo.com jabber i

Re: [Standards] XEP-0047 (IBB streams) and acknowledgment

2008-06-13 Thread Fabio Forno
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Justin Karneges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My plan has always been to use XEP-198 for this. If your server wants you to > back off, it'll just not ack back to you over the c2s (or s2s) link. > Similarly, a mobile client that is dying would just not ack back to t