Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 4:07 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 4/21/09 2:58 PM, JiYí Zárevúcký wrote: >> 2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 4/21/09 12:57 PM, JiYí Zárevúcký wrote: 2009/4/21 Peter Sain

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 4:31 PM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: > 2009/4/22 Peter Saint-Andre : >>> There could be another problem, though. If the roster got reverted, >>> some client could update it up to the original sequence number or >>> further. Then if some client tha

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Multi-User Gaming

2009-04-21 Thread Arc Riley
> But if several people don't expect that under the title "Multi-User > Gaming" then we should look for a more appropriate title. Cool, we're in agreement then. I think the key point here is to contrast it with multiuser games where players use XMPP for chat and negotiate server connections via

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/22 Peter Saint-Andre : >> >> There could be another problem, though. If the roster got reverted, >> some client could update it up to the original sequence number or >> further. Then if some client that wasn't used for long time came >> online, it could receive wrong updates. > > I think it

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2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 2:58 PM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: > 2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 4/21/09 12:57 PM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: >>> 2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : I propose the following implementation

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 4/21/09 12:57 PM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: >> 2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : >>> I propose the following implementation note: >>> >>>   In some conditions, an XMPP client or server might know that the >>>   sequence

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 12:57 PM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote: > 2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : >> I propose the following implementation note: >> >> In some conditions, an XMPP client or server might know that the >> sequence numbering is invalid (e.g., because of a c

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Jiří Zárevúcký
2009/4/21 Peter Saint-Andre : > I propose the following implementation note: > >   In some conditions, an XMPP client or server might know that the >   sequence numbering is invalid (e.g., because of a catastrophic server >   failure). In these cases, the entity that discovers the problem >   SHOUL

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 7:53 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 4/21/09 7:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: >> On Fri Apr 17 22:03:57 2009, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > >> 2) There are cases where the sequence numbering can be known to have >> broken, for example, if

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 8:47 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 4/21/09 7:53 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 4/21/09 7:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > >>> 3) We borrow text from RFC 4551, which has IPR implications. >> I think that we borrow a concept from 4551 b

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 7:53 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 4/21/09 7:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > >> 3) We borrow text from RFC 4551, which has IPR implications. > > I think that we borrow a concept from 4551 but perhaps not exact text. > I'll check on that.

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/21/09 7:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Fri Apr 17 22:03:57 2009, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: >> Version 0.7 of XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning) has been released. > > A couple of minor points. > > 1) Roster pushes sent by the server MUST be sent

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2009-04-21 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Apr 17 22:03:57 2009, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: Version 0.7 of XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning) has been released. A couple of minor points. 1) Roster pushes sent by the server MUST be sent in order of the ver attribute. There's a whole horrible mess that occurs if any pushes are se