Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Delegation

2011-03-16 Thread Tuomas Koski
Hi Justin, first of all, great work. I find it a very good idea. On 16 March 2011 02:48, Justin Karneges justin-keyword-jabber.093...@affinix.com wrote: On Monday 10 January 2011 04:08:23 Dave Cridland wrote: 1) A minor niggle - I hate using query as the iq/ element. Feels very old-fashioned.

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 15.03.2011 um 21:53 schrieb Matthew A. Miller: I know a couple of clients where switching the chatstates message/s to type='headline' will break their support; I'm sure there are others since XEP-0082 specifies the states SHOULD NOT be

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Schleifer js-xmpp-standa...@webkeks.org wrote: Just having looked at my offline storage, I saw that chat states are stored by the server. But of course they are, as the type is chat and thus the server has to store them. Thinking about it, wouldn't

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Rejhon
I second it as well. The don't store if there is no body standard is recommended too, for my submitted/upcoming resubmit of Real Time Text too. It also involves message transmissions without a body element, sent before the completed message which contains a body element. On 3/16/11, Jonathan

[Standards] FWD: XEP-0277 message

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
Forwarding this because his mail doesn't seem to be happy: --- BEGIN -- Hi, I am the Jappix project founder (https://www.jappix.com/ - https://project.jappix.com/ - https://mini.jappix.com), and we added full microblogging XEP (XEP-0277) support to our webclient (desktop edition). We had a

Re: [Standards] FWD: XEP-0277 message

2011-03-16 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:39 +, Kevin Smith wrote: We had a strong need during its integration: the multiple/single file(s) attachment, like Identi.ca does in its protocol. We built a simple way (maybe not the best?!) to do this, with file / XML elements. Atom has this, which is also what

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning)

2011-03-16 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 1.2 of XEP-0237 (Roster Versioning) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines a proposed modification to the XMPP roster protocol that enables versioning of rosters such that the server will not send the roster to the client if the roster has not been modified, thus saving

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 March 2011 14:23, Mark Rejhon marky...@gmail.com wrote: I second it as well.  The don't store if there is no body standard is recommended too, for my submitted/upcoming resubmit of Real Time Text too.  It also involves

Re: [Standards] FWD: XEP-0277 message

2011-03-16 Thread Tuomas Koski
Hi, On 16 March 2011 17:24, Kim Alvefur z...@zash.se wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:39 +, Kevin Smith wrote: We had a strong need during its integration: the multiple/single file(s) attachment, like Identi.ca does in its protocol. We built a simple way (maybe not the best?!) to do this,

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Smith ke...@kismith.co.uk wrote: At least, without giving it up thought, it seems to be. *much* thought /K

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Rejhon
On a related note, are there situations where messsages is type=chat but does NOT contain a body? I couldn't find a guideline relating to this, as this is also relevant to my work-in-progress. On 3/16/11, Kevin Smith ke...@kismith.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Smith

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Delegation

2011-03-16 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 16 March 2011 02:33:07 you wrote: On 16 March 2011 02:48, Justin Karneges If we're not querying for lists, then disco#items is out. But, we can still inherit disco category and type. How about this: iq type=get from=al...@example.com/home to=b...@example.com id=d1

Re: [Standards] Chat States as Headlines

2011-03-16 Thread Matthew A. Miller
On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:54 , Mark Rejhon wrote: On a related note, are there situations where messsages is type=chat but does NOT contain a body? I couldn't find a guideline relating to this, as this is also relevant to my work-in-progress. CSN (XEP-0082) is the most common case where we