Re: [Standards] XEP-277 (microblogging) inaccuracies

2011-04-27 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Next group of problems: 1. In comments node how to ensure that a comment was posted by exactly this man and a comment was not forged by a swindler? We have a publisher attribute for an item documented in XEP-60 but still have no full definition of it's behavior. So for now I think that client

[Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Hi, I have a problem with privacy list on an ejabberd server, and developers are right to say there is a problem in the standards: Let's say I configure a list to block all IQ for jid with subscription=none (nice anti-spam rule). Now I don't get any iq answer to, let's say, disco#info on my

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Remko Tronçon
That's normal because RFC [1] says that Privacy lists MUST be the first delivery rule applied by a server, superseding ... XEP 16 (copied from the RFC), section 2.14 says that the server should return service-unavailable. cheers, Remko

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Remko Tronçon
XEP 16 (copied from the RFC), section 2.14 says that the server should return service-unavailable. And by 'should', i mean MUST. cheers, Remko

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Yann Leboulanger
On 04/27/2011 08:02 PM, Remko Tronçon wrote: That's normal because RFC [1] says that Privacy lists MUST be the first delivery rule applied by a server, superseding ... XEP 16 (copied from the RFC), section 2.14 says that the server should return service-unavailable. Really? I See the case

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Kim Alvefur
Let's say I configure a list to block all IQ for jid with subscription=none (nice anti-spam rule). Now I don't get any iq answer to, let's say, disco#info on my server. That's normal because RFC [1] says that Privacy lists MUST be the first delivery rule applied by a server, superseding

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Yann Leboulanger
On 04/27/2011 09:04 PM, Kim Alvefur wrote: Let's say I configure a list to block all IQ for jid with subscription=none (nice anti-spam rule). Now I don't get any iq answer to, let's say, disco#info on my server. That's normal because RFC [1] says that Privacy lists MUST be the first delivery

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Yann Leboulanger
On 04/27/2011 10:00 PM, Remko Tronçon wrote: If a user setup this rule it's because he doesn't want spam. And if server don't block result|error, user can be spammed of iq result for ex According to xep-0016: The allowable child elements are: message/ -- blocks incoming message stanzas iq/

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Remko Tronçon
So a client is not allowed to send an iq to its server if this anti-spam rule is set? I'm not quite following why it's not ok to send an iq to your own server? The XEP says that privacy lists block *incoming* IQs (that is, 'incoming' from the point of view of the client, so from other entities

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Yann Leboulanger
On 04/27/2011 10:42 PM, Remko Tronçon wrote: So a client is not allowed to send an iq to its server if this anti-spam rule is set? I'm not quite following why it's not ok to send an iq to your own server? The XEP says that privacy lists block *incoming* IQs (that is, 'incoming' from the point

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Florian Zeitz
Am 27.04.2011 23:28, schrieb Yann Leboulanger: On 04/27/2011 10:42 PM, Remko Tronçon wrote: So a client is not allowed to send an iq to its server if this anti-spam rule is set? I'm not quite following why it's not ok to send an iq to your own server? The XEP says that privacy lists block

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: JSON Content Type support

2011-04-27 Thread Matthew A. Miller
On Apr 20, 2011, at 09:35 , XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: JSON Content Type support Abstract: This specification defines JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) use in XMPP service. URL:

Re: [Standards] RFC vs privacy lists

2011-04-27 Thread Florian Zeitz
Am 27.04.2011 23:43, schrieb Florian Zeitz: Am 27.04.2011 23:28, schrieb Yann Leboulanger: No, the outgoing iq is not blocked, but the reply is. So a client sends an iq, but nver get an answer, which is against the RFC. As you pointed out yourself, and as Remko has pointed out is defined in