Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Rejhon
On 2012-08-01 11:15 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was suggesting that we host the image at xmpp.org but not embed it > in the document -- I don't particularly want an animated GIF in the > middle of the spec, but I'd like to have a stable

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Rejhon
On 2012-08-01 11:08 AM, "Matthew Miller" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have concerns embedding something into a document that reduces its printability. As archaic as this sounds, I often print specifications in order to review them! > > That said, I'm not immedi

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was suggesting that we host the image at xmpp.org but not embed it in the document -- I don't particularly want an animated GIF in the middle of the spec, but I'd like to have a stable URL we can point to. On 8/1/12 9:08 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: >

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

2012-08-01 Thread Matthew Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have concerns embedding something into a document that reduces its printability. As archaic as this sounds, I often print specifications in order to review them! That said, I'm not immediately opposed to it, but would approach with caution. The

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- embedding small illustrative animated GIF into spec

2012-08-01 Thread Mark Rejhon
Note: Precedent on image embeds exists -- an example image is embedded into XHTML-IM (XEP-0071). On 2012-08-01 8:53 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre" wrote: > > On 7/23/12 1:17 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote: > > > [Question] > > Understood -- animation really helps explains real-time text, if they > > haven't seen

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 0.5 comments [Sections 1 through 5]

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/27/12 8:19 AM, Mark Rejhon wrote: "The event attribute MAY be omitted from the element during regular real-time text transmission" - what is the the alternative you're allowing clients, and what is "regular real-time text transmission"? >>> >>> [Change made] >>> Clarifica

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 0.5 comments [Sections 1 through 5]

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/23/12 1:17 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote: > [Question] > Understood -- animation really helps explains real-time text, if they > haven't seen it before. > Can we use a more well-known site (i.e. realtimetext.org > ?) since we can put my animations there too? > Alternatively,

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: Advancement of XEP-0071 (XHTML-IM) to Final

2012-08-01 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Hello. On 08/01/2012 07:43 AM, Mathieu Pasquet wrote: > > I am also not sure about the and elements: they > are shown as a recommended element to support (7.8), but the business > rules (8.7) states that they should not be used, but rather or > with appropriate style attributes. Is it only fo

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: Advancement of XEP-0071 (XHTML-IM) to Final

2012-08-01 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/01/2012 03:58 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > At its meeting on July 25, 2012, the XMPP Council agreed to issue a > "Call for Experience" regarding XEP-0071 (XHTML-IM), in preparation for > perhaps advancing this specification from Draft to Final in the XSF's > standards process. To help the C