Re: [Standards] Dynamic Forms

2013-12-11 Thread Lance Stout
I remembered that I promised to give this a more thorough review on list after voting for moving this to Experimental, since the Council had some concerns that will need to be addressed before this would be approved to advance to Draft (See http://logs.xmpp.org/council/131127/) 1) The primary con

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 11-12-13 16:47, Christian Schudt wrote: Hi, > If both attributes have (now) fix values, why have them around anyway? First of all: it is a SHOULD, if you have good reasons to do something else, you can divert from it. Secondly the "(now)" is important: We can not make changes to BOSH that bre

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Matt Miller
On Dec 11, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Christian Schudt wrote: >> In theory, more connections means less latency. In practice, anything more >> than 1 held connection (so a maximum of 2 requests) starts to violate the >> in-order delivery rules from RFC 6120. > > So, another argument, to completely re

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Christian Schudt
> In theory, more connections means less latency. In practice, anything more > than 1 held connection (so a maximum of 2 requests) starts to violate the > in-order delivery rules from RFC 6120. So, another argument, to completely remove "hold" and "requests", as they are always 1 and 2 in prac

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Matt Miller
On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Christian Schudt wrote: > Hi, > > yes, "to" should be "from" in 7.2. > > Concerning the xs:positiveInteger: > http://www.w3schools.com/schema/schema_dtypes_numeric.asp > I am not really sure if a positiveInteger is unbound and an unsignedInt is > limited to 32bit

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Christian Schudt
Well, at least in Java I found it easier, if you could just setup a threed pool with 2 fix threads instead of a variable thread pool, because then you have to manage the number of concurrent connections/threads manually depending on the "requests" attribute. So, the number two makes more sense i

Re: [Standards] Fwd: Minutes 2013-11-20

2013-12-11 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Ben Langfeld wrote: > It's now three weeks since this meeting. I havn't seen a vote from Tobias on > rayo-fax, or either of rayo-fax and rayo-cpa being published. > > Is there anything blocking these that I can help resolve? Tobias okayed these on 27th November.

Re: [Standards] Fwd: Minutes 2013-11-20

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Langfeld
It's now three weeks since this meeting. I havn't seen a vote from Tobias on rayo-fax, or either of rayo-fax and rayo-cpa being published. Is there anything blocking these that I can help resolve? On 20 November 2013 12:39, Kevin Smith wrote: > FYI > > -- Forwarded message -- >

Re: [Standards] draft-nottingham-http-problem

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 09-12-13 12:29, Dave Cridland wrote: Hi, > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-http-problem-05 Interesting. > this morning, and I wondered about its applicability to BOSH for fatal > errors at the XEP-0124 level. > > I don't think XEP-0124 really goes into much detail about error > r

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 11-12-13 08:21, Christian Schudt wrote: Hi, > Why can there be more than two concurrent connections ("requests") > anyway? Or, what's the benefit, if you use, say 5. You said "you only > ever need two connections". This is something I wondered, too, while > implementing it. The only argument

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 10-12-13 22:12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Hi, > Lance has sent me an updated patch, which I have applied. The diff > between 124rc1 and 124rc2 is here: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0124/diff/1.11rc1/vs/1.11rc2 In section 7.2 now the 'hold' attribute is both defined in the list

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 10-12-13 23:48, Matt Miller wrote: Hi, >> - The from attribute. I think it should be: "it MUST forward the >> identity to the client by including a 'from' attribute in a >> response" (instead of MAY), because the core spec says: >>> "For response stream headers in both client-to-server and

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 10-12-13 23:46, Justin Karneges wrote: Hi Justin, > I'm curious, what's the rationale for the flip-flopping design? It seems > to me that we could have just used a long-polling loop for receiving > data, and then a normal request/response whenever we need to send data. > Not suggesting a chang

Re: [Standards] BOSH patches

2013-12-11 Thread Winfried Tilanus
On 10-12-13 22:12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Hi, > Lance has sent me an updated patch, which I have applied. The diff > between 124rc1 and 124rc2 is here: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0124/diff/1.11rc1/vs/1.11rc2 Thank you, Lance & Peter Winfried

Re: [Standards] eventlogging xeps

2013-12-11 Thread Teemu Väisänen
Yes, it is better now. -Teemu 2013/12/10 Peter Waher : > Hello Teemu > > Thanks for the feedback. The description in §7.3.2 was perhaps a bit > minimalistic. I extended it as follows: > > Event messages could be published using Publish-Subscribe. Unless there's > absolute control of who can sub