Re: [Standards] forwarding stanzas when to=/from= values are absent

2014-11-24 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
> On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Graham King wrote: > > Is a message without to/from permitted, or possible? Certainly some stanzas can have both or one of to/from absent. XEP 297 can be used to forward any stanza, and in a wide range of contexts. The requirements apply to all forwarding case

Re: [Standards] forwarding stanzas when to=/from= values are absent

2014-11-24 Thread Graham King
Is a message without to/from permitted, or possible? I think the rules here http://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#stanzas-attributes would prevent it: To: "A stanza with a specific intended recipient (e.g., a conversation partner, a remote service, the server itself, even another resource associated w

[Standards] forwarding stanzas when to=/from= values are absent

2014-11-24 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
While XEP 297 states the following requirement: The original sender and receiver should be identified. It is not clear how this requirement is fulfilled when one wants to forward the stanza: Hello how is the sender and receiver to be identified (when known to the forwarding entity)? Ad

Re: [Standards] multiple elements in a stanza (XEP 297)

2014-11-24 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
So I have been thinking about this… where a user wants to forward a conversation consisting of multiple stanzas, that it's probably not wise to send them all in one stanza (even though XEP 297 doesn't explicitly preclude this). I'm thinking XEP 297 should minimally contain a sentence: "Each st

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery)

2014-11-24 Thread Dave Cridland
On 24 November 2014 at 16:08, Cramer, E.R. (Eelco) wrote: > In the IoT mailing list (cc)?! > > Ah! A mailing list I'd entirely missed for some reason. Dave.

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery)

2014-11-24 Thread Cramer, E.R. (Eelco)
In the IoT mailing list (cc)?! Cheers, Eelco On 24 Nov 2014, at 16:49, Dave Cridland mailto:d...@cridland.net>> wrote: On 24 November 2014 at 15:29, XMPP Extensions Editor mailto:edi...@xmpp.org>> wrote: Version 0.3 of XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery) has been released. Abstract: Thi

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery)

2014-11-24 Thread Dave Cridland
On 24 November 2014 at 15:29, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.3 of XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery) has been released. > > Abstract: This specification describes an architecture based on the XMPP > protocol whereby Things can be installed and safely discovered by their > owners

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery)

2014-11-24 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.3 of XEP-0347 (Internet of Things - Discovery) has been released. Abstract: This specification describes an architecture based on the XMPP protocol whereby Things can be installed and safely discovered by their owners and connected into networks of Things. Changelog: [See revision his

Re: [Standards] What does "The message headers matched a filter rule" mean?

2014-11-24 Thread Kevin Smith
On 24 Nov 2014, at 15:13, Peter Waher wrote: > Concerning spam: Is it only the editor’s list that is affected? How is spam > kept away from the standards and iot lists? > Other lists only allow member posting. /K

Re: [Standards] What does "The message headers matched a filter rule" mean?

2014-11-24 Thread
On 11/24/14, 8:13 AM, Peter Waher wrote: Thanks Ash & Peter. I’ve resent the mail now. Concerning spam: Is it only the editor’s list that is affected? How is spam kept away from the standards and iot lists? Only subscribers can send messages to those lists. We can't do that for the editor lis

Re: [Standards] What does "The message headers matched a filter rule" mean?

2014-11-24 Thread Peter Waher
Thanks Ash & Peter. I’ve resent the mail now. Concerning spam: Is it only the editor’s list that is affected? How is spam kept away from the standards and iot lists? Best regards, Peter Waher From: Ashley Ward [mailto:ashley.w...@surevine.com] Sent: den 21 november 2014 13:10 To: XMPP Standard

Re: [Standards] Carbon copies of non-chat messages

2014-11-24 Thread Holger Weiß
* Philipp Hancke [2014-11-23 16:24]: > Am 23.11.2014 um 15:16 schrieb Holger Weiß: > >Why does XEP-0280 restrict its scope to message stanzas of type "chat"? > >Wouldn't you usually expect to also receive copies of "normal" messages, > >at least? > > See http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards