Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 02/11/2015 12:12 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote: Hi Sergey, thanks for you reply. :) Hey Florian, thanks you are interested in this question. On 10.02.2015 09:11, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 02/10/2015 01:57 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote: But IMHO there is one piece missing. If we assume that the

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Florian Schmaus f...@geekplace.eu wrote: Let's start by classifying inbound stanzas into three types. There are stanza that… 1. require immediate delivery Even those stanzas can be slightly deferred and be bundled, I believe. Just the interval will be

[Standards] Fwd: [kitten] AD sponsoring draft-hansen-scram-sha256

2015-02-13 Thread Dave Cridland
Since XMPP folks are particularly interested in scram, I'd like to draw attention to this work. Note the venue for comments! -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Farrell stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie Date: 12 Feb 2015 01:25 Subject: [kitten] AD sponsoring draft-hansen-scram-sha256

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 13.02.2015 12:35, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 02/11/2015 12:12 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote: On 10.02.2015 09:11, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 02/10/2015 01:57 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote: I'm not sure about that, Even if you defer all messages for only 30 seconds, realtime (chat) communication would

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 13.02.2015 16:14, Ivan Vučica wrote: Let's not forget that iOS gets into a violent mood in case your background app wakes up more frequently than 15 times in 300 seconds. Message in the log is, quite literally, exceeded 15 wakes in 300 sec. This matters only if the app is in background

Re: [Standards] Fwd: [kitten] AD sponsoring draft-hansen-scram-sha256

2015-02-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre - yet
On 2/13/15 7:35 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: Since XMPP folks are particularly interested in scram, I'd like to draw attention to this work. Note the venue for comments! Comments sent. :-) /psa

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Florian Schmaus f...@geekplace.eu wrote: I'm not an iOS export, but I think I've heard that TCP connection are terminated anyway after something like 60 seconds (of inactivity?). While I have not tested this, I would highly doubt this is the case for the

Re: [Standards] XMPP GSoC ideas

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Smith
A reminder that I need the ideas in this week if we’re going to do anything about GSoC this year - so far I’ve only had ideas in from 2 1/2 projects, and many more than that told me they were interested. Monday, please. /K On 9 Feb 2015, at 10:59, Kevin Smith kevin.sm...@isode.com wrote:

Re: [Standards] [Members] XMPP GSoC ideas

2015-02-13 Thread Joachim Lindborg
ok monday will see what I manage over weekend *Hållbarhetsdagarna 26-27 mars - Du kommer väl!* Hör energiminister Ibrahim Baylan, Johan Kuylenstierna, VD, Stockholm Environment Institute m.fl. Delta i Create now workshop dag 2. Var med båda halvdagarna eller den som passar dig bäst! Läs

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Christian Ulrich
On Fr, 2015-02-13 at 15:51 -0500, Brian Cully wrote: On 13-Feb-2015, at 13:50, Ivan Vučica i...@vucica.net wrote: So the clients with the most enjoyable experience typically open a connection from the developer's servers, and deliver notifications over APNS. Should that continue to be

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Brian Cully
On 13-Feb-2015, at 13:50, Ivan Vučica i...@vucica.net wrote: So the clients with the most enjoyable experience typically open a connection from the developer's servers, and deliver notifications over APNS. Should that continue to be true? Speaking personally, absolutely not. I

Re: [Standards] Using XMPP In A Mobile Environment

2015-02-13 Thread Dave Cridland
I don't have anything useful to add here, really, but please can you guys capture your knowledge into XEP-0286?​ It's clearly behind the times, as it's 5 years old, but if we could capture some more modern thinking it might become useful again. Thanks, Dave.