Re: [Standards] Experimental vs. Draft vs. ProtoXEP states

2017-09-06 Thread Paul Schaub
Here is a link to the rendered version: https://geekplace.eu/xeps/xep-jet/xep-jet.html Greetings vv Am 06.09.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Paul Schaub: > > Hello everyone! > > To get back to topic: I made some changes based on your feedback. > Basically my plan is to split JET up into a main XEP and som

Re: [Standards] Experimental vs. Draft vs. ProtoXEP states

2017-09-06 Thread Paul Schaub
Hello everyone! To get back to topic: I made some changes based on your feedback. Basically my plan is to split JET up into a main XEP and some subprotocols. As Daniel suggested, JET will only contain reusable stuff and has no more mentions of OMEMO and OX. Instead I used "stub" encryption method

[Standards] 2017-09-06 XSF Council Minutes

2017-09-06 Thread JC Brand
2017-09-06 XSF Council Minutes == Present: Tobias, Link Mauve, SamWhited Minute taker: jcbrand * The Trello board needs updating. * Tobias will give jcbrand (acting as editor) access to the Trello board so that he might add things to the council board. * Date of next

Re: [Standards] Reputation system for XMPP

2017-09-06 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017, at 01:44, Remko Tronçon wrote: > (e.g. no IBR, harder proof of validity) XEP-0389 [1] was written to help with this. Feedback, implementations, and mechanisms to make mass registrations harder are appreciated. —Sam [1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0389.html _

Re: [Standards] Reputation system for XMPP

2017-09-06 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:18:09 +0200 Georg Lukas wrote: > a) Throttle per-IP IBR attempts How? By restricting a period a single IP can register an account? Doesn't work: spammers walk through the huge list of servers, effectively bypassing the restriction. > b) Throttle outgoing presence/messages fro

Re: [Standards] Reputation system for XMPP

2017-09-06 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, just to add some (controversial) points to the SPAM debate: The XSNDR spam is ridiculously easy to filter with some heuristics (and prosody's mod_firewall). I'm blocking north of 10K messages per day on yax.im. If you are still getting spam from XSNDR, your server operator needs some urgent h

Re: [Standards] Reputation system for XMPP

2017-09-06 Thread Dave Cridland
On 6 September 2017 at 08:29, Evgeny Khramtsov wrote: > The problem is, last time I checked[1], one third of ejabberd servers > were running ancient versions, like 5 years old or more. There are also > lots of jabberd servers, not sure they have any registration protection > at all. Seems like we

Re: [Standards] Reputation system for XMPP

2017-09-06 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Wed, 6 Sep 2017 08:44:22 +0200 Remko Tronçon wrote: > I was sort of hoping that you would come up with a magic trick after > getting through your reading list. Hehe, most of the problems in that list is about how to authenticate remote servers in SMTP (like SPF, DKIM and so on). I didn't find lo