Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

> Wait, what are we discussing again? > > We were discussing if I was fully, or completely right, of course. :-P Also, I again have to postpone my bikeshed-warming-party. It's not finished yet. Will let you know. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 22 September 2017 at 18:23, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 22.09.2017 19:19, Guus der Kinderen wrote: >> >> >> On 22 September 2017 at 19:15, Florian Schmaus > > wrote: >> >> On 22.09.2017 13 :50, Guus der Kinderen wrote: >> > I suggest to improve the wording of t

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 22.09.2017 19:19, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > > On 22 September 2017 at 19:15, Florian Schmaus > wrote: > > On 22.09.2017 13 :50, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > > name "STARTTLS" with

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 22 September 2017 at 19:15, Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 22.09.2017 13:50, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > > name "STARTTLS" with the technique name "Opportunistic TLS". > > I'm pretty sure STARTTLS is not the same as Opportun

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 22.09.2017 13:50, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > name "STARTTLS" with the technique name "Opportunistic TLS". I'm pretty sure STARTTLS is not the same as Opportunistic TLS. I also think that XEP-0368 does not explicitly talk a

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 9/22/17 8:14 AM, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > > On 22 September 2017 at 15:58, Peter Saint-Andre > wrote: > > On 9/22/17 5:50 AM, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > > name "STARTTLS" with

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0359 (Unique and Stable Stanza IDs)

Hi, the vast number of different IDs can make a developer dizzy. Can we please specify in 0359 that an entity adding an MUST (or at least SHOULD) set the message-id value of the message to the same ID as the ? It was asked why would be needed at all then, but when a client is processing incomin

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 22 September 2017 at 15:58, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 9/22/17 5:50 AM, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > > name "STARTTLS" with the technique name "Opportunistic TLS". > > "Opportunistic Security" usually means encryption w

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 9/22/17 5:50 AM, Guus der Kinderen wrote: > I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command > name "STARTTLS" with the technique name "Opportunistic TLS". "Opportunistic Security" usually means encryption without authentication: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7435 Peter

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

On 19 September 2017 at 17:04, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > Dear list, > > With my XEP Editor hat on, we’d like to issue a Call for Experience for > XEP-0368. This is the step taken before proposing advancement of a XEP to > Final status to Council. > > > During the Call for Experience, please answer t

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience for XEP-0368: SRV records for XMPP over TLS

I suggest to improve the wording of this XEP by replacing the command name "STARTTLS" with the technique name "Opportunistic TLS". This way, we're not comparing apples to oranges, when mentioning both in the same text. To retain clarity, this term should be added to the glossary, with a mention of