Re: [Standards] Ephemeral messages to offline users (XEP-0085, XEP-0160?)

2019-06-06 Thread Evgeny
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:45 PM, Daniel Gultsch wrote: I never liked the behaviour of some clients that would simply show error messages without any context whatsoever in the chat window. I prefer clients that track actual messages and mark individual messages as failed. That's a typical pitfa

Re: [Standards] Ephemeral messages to offline users (XEP-0085, XEP-0160?)

2019-06-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Do., 6. Juni 2019 um 09:09 Uhr schrieb Georg Lukas : > 1. Tracking of CSNs in the sending clients and suppressing display of > the bounces. That requires additional logic and (potentially persistent) > tracking of ephemeral message IDs, or some other ugly hacks like > encoding the ephemerality

[Standards] Ephemeral messages to offline users (XEP-0085, XEP-0160?)

2019-06-06 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, recently I started noticing bounces for CSNs (XEP-0085) sent to an offiline (ejabberd) user. This behavior corresponds to XEP-0160, ยง2.3: > Recipient's server determines that if the server can store offline > messages on behalf of the intended recipient; if not (e.g., because > the recipient'