Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 for transports

2020-02-26 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 16:40:06 CET Ivan Vučica wrote: > Hi, > > Sometimes, protocols backing transports may support querying for an > archive similar to how it's done with XEP-0313. > > tl;dr Can querying archives on non-own, non-MUC, non-pubsub JID for > 1:1 chats be standardized? Can

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 for transports

2020-02-26 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 16:40:06 CET Ivan Vučica wrote: > (Also, random thought: seeing XEP-0313 lapse into 'Deferred' is > concerning...) Actually, XEP-0313 is on the Council’s Short List for Last Call issuing (the step which leads to advancement to Draft). And as Paul says, indeed,

Re: [Standards] XEP-0313 for transports

2020-02-26 Thread Paul Schaub
> (Also, random thought: seeing XEP-0313 lapse into 'Deferred' is concerning...) The deferred state doesn't really have any meaning, only that there was no input on the XEP for over a year. Paul 26.02.2020 16:41:06 Ivan Vučica : > Hi, > > Sometimes, protocols backing transports may support

[Standards] XEP-0313 for transports

2020-02-26 Thread Ivan Vučica
Hi, Sometimes, protocols backing transports may support querying for an archive similar to how it's done with XEP-0313. tl;dr Can querying archives on non-own, non-MUC, non-pubsub JID for 1:1 chats be standardized? Can it be standardized that server implementations don't have to support

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0198: Stream Management

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
пт, 21 февр. 2020 г. в 14:33, JC Brand : > I have worked on deployments where Converse.js is integrated together with > roster and presences and/or MUC presences and where pages are regularly > reloaded (i.e. not a single-page app). Btw, I assume you use a strophe.js library. Personally, I

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0198: Stream Management

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
сб, 22 февр. 2020 г. в 14:49, Jonas Schäfer : > Instead of dropping SM and introducing explicit versioning protocols > everywhere, wouldn’t it make more sense to increase SM timeouts to something > useful for mobile clients? Versioned protocols have one more crucial advantage, that comes as a

Re: [Standards] Call for Experience: XEP-0198: Stream Management

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Nenakhov
To now overcrowd the discussion, I'll answer severals email in this one. пт, 21 февр. 2020 г. в 13:25, Daniel Gultsch : > Only someone who hasn't been on a German high speed train can say with > confidence that desktop and web clients don't need stream management. This clearly looks like a