Re: [Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Sam Whited
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, at 10:49, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > The "immediately after resource binding" was which was led me to > believe that this was about enabling carbons, well, *after* resource > binding, not before. Ah yes, I see; thanks! Will fix. > From (4) onward, it is exactly the same as if

Re: [Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Jonas Schäfer
Hi Sam! Thanks for your clarification, details and more clarification from my side below. On Freitag, 16. Juli 2021 15:48:10 CEST Sam Whited wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, at 08:55, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > > How is a nonza different from an IQ, if both happen post-resource- > > binding, as I unde

Re: [Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Sam Whited
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, at 08:55, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > How is a nonza different from an IQ, if both happen post-resource- > binding, as I understand from your text? This is not what the PR says (see next section). I would be curious what made it sound like that though, this should be fixed but r

Re: [Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Jonas Schäfer
Hi Sam, On Freitag, 16. Juli 2021 13:45:27 CEST Sam Whited wrote: > There has been a lot of discussion about bind2 as a potential way to fix > the Message Carbons race condition > (quick summary: when the connection > starts you go to enable carbons with the IQ, but you've already received > a fe

Re: [Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Matthew Wild
On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 12:47, Sam Whited wrote: > > Hi all, > > There has been a lot of discussion about bind2 as a potential way to fix > the Message Carbons race condition (quick summary: when the connection > starts you go to enable carbons with the IQ, but you've already received > a few messa

[Standards] Carbons Stream Feature

2021-07-16 Thread Sam Whited
Hi all, There has been a lot of discussion about bind2 as a potential way to fix the Message Carbons race condition (quick summary: when the connection starts you go to enable carbons with the IQ, but you've already received a few messages that aren't carbon copied before the IQ gets sent). Howev