[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-11 Thread Dave Cridland
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 15:19, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0360. > > Title: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) > Abstract: > This specification defines the term "Nonza", describing every top > level stream element that is not a Stanza. > > URL

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 6:43 PM Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > > >* The server assist was added because of the feature request that the > >server parses . However > >this puts unnecessary burden on the server because the server then has > >to look up the stanza-id from the message-id (which is used b

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-11 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Montag, 11. März 2024 10:14:36 CET Daniel Gultsch wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > > XEP-0360. > > […] > > Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send > > your feedback

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
* The server assist was added because of the feature request that the server parses . However this puts unnecessary burden on the server because the server then has to look up the stanza-id from the message-id (which is used by Displayed Markers (Chat Markers)). So with that feature request / requ

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 4:28 PM Jonas Schäfer wrote: > - Server assist should specify exactly when the modification of the > stanza happens. In particular, the interaction with MAM, Carbons and > potentially IM-NG should be spelled out (i.e.: is the xmlns="..mds.."/> part of the archive and/or

[Standards] Re: Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030

2024-03-11 Thread Tedd Sterr
>From XEP-0001, regarding Final XEPs, "limited modifications may be made as >long as they are optional, backwards-compatible extensions rather than >modifications to the core protocol itself." XEP-0030 requires that entities return "one or more elements and one or more elements", so the other

[Standards] Re: Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030

2024-03-11 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Montag, 11. März 2024 12:41:17 CET Florian Schmaus wrote: > On 10/03/2024 17.27, Jonas Schäfer wrote: > > Dear community, > > > > it's been a while I spoke up here. > > > > I would like to discuss the removal of the following part-sentence from > > > > XEP-0030 (in Final status!): > >> every

[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization

2024-03-11 Thread Jonas Schäfer
Hello list, daniel, On Samstag, 9. März 2024 21:15:16 CET dan...@gultsch.de wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Message Displayed Synchronization > Abstract: > This specification allows multiple clients of the same user to > synchronize the displa

[Standards] XMPP Council Agenda 2024-03-12

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Good morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, March 12 2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:coun...@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization * LAST

[Standards] Re: Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030

2024-03-11 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 10/03/2024 17.27, Jonas Schäfer wrote: Dear community, it's been a while I spoke up here. I would like to discuss the removal of the following part-sentence from XEP-0030 (in Final status!): every entity MUST support at least the 'http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info' feature I agree th

[Standards] Re: Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030

2024-03-11 Thread Ralph Meijer
On 11 March 2024 10:51:39 CET, Kevin Smith wrote: > > [..] > >It seems to me that, although this has always seemed like a strange wart, the >fact that it might cause implementations to need to be updated (whether such >implementations are known of by The Internet or not), making the change is

[Standards] Re: Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030

2024-03-11 Thread Kevin Smith
-- Original Message -- From "Jonas Schäfer" To standards@xmpp.org Date 10/03/2024 16:27:07 Subject [Standards] Remove requirement to send disco#info feature in XEP-0030 Dear community, it's been a while I spoke up here. I would like to discuss the removal of the following part-se

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-11 Thread Kevin Smith
-- Original Message -- From "Daniel Gultsch" To standards@xmpp.org Date 11/03/2024 09:14:36 Subject [Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas)) On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XE

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0360 (Nonzas (are not Stanzas))

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:18 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0360. > > Title: Nonzas (are not Stanzas) > Abstract: > This specification defines the term "Nonza", describing every top > level stream element that is not a Stanza. > >

[Standards] Re: LAST CALL: XEP-0392 (Consistent Color Generation)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 3:24 PM Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0392. > 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol > stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Yes > 2. Does the specification solve the problem

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0001 (XMPP Extension Protocols)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.25.0 of XEP-0001 (XMPP Extension Protocols) has been released. Abstract: This document defines the standards process followed by the XMPP Standards Foundation. Changelog: Add note that editorial changes do not affect Deferred state (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0489 (Reporting Account Affiliations)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0489 (Reporting Account Affiliations) has been released. Abstract: This specification documents a way for an XMPP server to report to other entities the relationship it has with a user on its domain. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.or

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0488 (MUC Token Invite)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0488 (MUC Token Invite) has been released. Abstract: This specification provides a way to generate tokens to invite users to a MUC room. Changelog: * Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0488.html Note: The information in the XEP li

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe)

2024-03-11 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Version 1.26.0 of XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for generic publish-subscribe functionality. The protocol enables XMPP entities to create nodes (topics) at a pubsub service and publish information at those nodes; an