Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Dave Cridland wrote: > On Wed Aug 15 22:57:23 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Based on my experience in the IETF since 2002, I am not familiar with a >> formal process for doing draft proposals there. You just publish an >> Internet-Draft, others may propose similar or competing I-Ds, and you >>

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Dave Cridland wrote: > On Wed Aug 15 21:01:07 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> The XSF is a standards development organization. We're supposed to be >> developing standards. If people want to publish the results of their >> experiments on their own websites as input to the XSF's standards >> devel

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs (was: Re: whiteboarding and shared editing)

2007-08-16 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Aug 15 21:01:07 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: The XSF is a standards development organization. We're supposed to be developing standards. If people want to publish the results of their experiments on their own websites as input to the XSF's standards development process, they are free to

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-16 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Aug 15 22:57:23 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Based on my experience in the IETF since 2002, I am not familiar with a formal process for doing draft proposals there. You just publish an Internet-Draft, others may propose similar or competing I-Ds, and you hash it out on mailing lists an

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: > > > On 8/15/07 5:34 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Boyd Fletcher wrote: >>> In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of >>> specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar >>> process. >> Sure,

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
On 8/15/07 5:34 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boyd Fletcher wrote: >> In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of >> specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar >> process. > > Sure, people here can publish thing

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: > In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of > specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar > process. Sure, people here can publish things on their own websites and we can use those as input to the design process. But

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs (was: Re: whiteboarding and shared editing)

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar process. I think we need a more organized approach to developing complex XEPs. On 8/15/07 4:01 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[Standards] Experimental XEPs (was: Re: whiteboarding and shared editing)

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: > > On 8/15/07 1:54 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dave Cridland wrote: >>> as an >>> experimental protocol, >> Unlike the IETF, we don't have the concept of an "Experimental" spec. >> The closest we come is Informational specs. More here: >> >> http: