Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-17 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 6/17/11 3:24 AM, Florian Zeitz wrote: > I personally don't care if Opus is in the XEP if it is in the current > form (clearly stating the situation on IPR issues), but I think it's > somewhat strange to include information on something that is still very > much in flux. Well, it's mostly based

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-17 Thread Florian Zeitz
dre [mailto:stpe...@stpeter.im] > Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 9:21 AM > To: XMPP Standards > Cc: dmex > Subject: Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) > > First of all, Section of XEP-0266 is purely informational -- it lists > selected codecs that migh

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-17 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Jun 17 03:44:13 2011, dmex wrote: Am I emailing play school? One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does not belong. Possibly from one. A codec that has patent issues and not finalized is something that does not belong. End of story. Firstly, Opus does

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread dmex
ds Cc: dmex Subject: Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) :) A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting so bad? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying behavior on email discussion lists? On 6/16/11 7:07 PM, dmex

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
:) A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting so bad? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying behavior on email discussion lists? On 6/16/11 7:07 PM, dmex wrote: > Well this isn’t a wiki page… Considering this is the last call before > beco

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread dmex
Standards Subject: Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) There isn't one. Much of this XEP would work a lot better as a wiki page. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:51 PM, dmex wrote: What's the point of including it on the document when it's not finalized an

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread Arc Riley
There isn't one. Much of this XEP would work a lot better as a wiki page. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:51 PM, dmex wrote: > What's the point of including it on the document when it's not finalized > and > has potential patent claims? >

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread dmex
ubject: Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) On Thu Jun 16 18:26:34 2011, dmex wrote: > Opus should not be listed until such time as its patent doubts are > resolved and its format has been formally finalized, doing otherwise > is stupidity at its best. > >

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread Dave Cridland
time? -Original Message- From: standards-boun...@xmpp.org [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of XMPP Extensions Editor Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 12:25 AM To: standards@xmpp.org Subject: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) This message constitutes notice

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread dmex
[mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of XMPP Extensions Editor Sent: Friday, 17 June 2011 12:25 AM To: standards@xmpp.org Subject: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio) This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio). Abstract

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio)

2011-06-16 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0266 (Codecs for Jingle Audio). Abstract: This document describes implementation considerations related to audio codecs for use in Jingle RTP sessions. URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0266.html This Last Call begins tod