Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/8/11 5:27 AM, Ralph Meijer wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to > support my e

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 12:19 +0200, Alexander Holler wrote: > Hello, > > Am 07.08.2011 19:27, schrieb Waqas Hussain: > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > > > XMPP errors always come from the JID the stanza was sent to, not from > > the entity which actually generated the error

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > >>> Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to > >>> support my expectation that they are sent from the JID

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Kevin Smith
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote: > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: >>> Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to >>> support my expectation that they are sent from the JID the original >>> presence was sent to. That'd mean that eithe

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Alexander Holler
Hello, Am 07.08.2011 19:27, schrieb Waqas Hussain: On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: XMPP errors always come from the JID the stanza was sent to, not from the entity which actually generated the error. An obvious example is Exactly, RFC 6120 defines this in section 8.3.1.

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-08 Thread Dave Cridland
On Sun Aug 7 16:40:30 2011, Ralph Meijer wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 09:31 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote: > > Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to > > support my expectation that they are sent from the JID the original > > presence was sent to. That'd mean that eith

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-07 Thread Waqas Hussain
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: >> Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to >> support my expectation that they are sent from the JID the original >> presence was sent to. That'd mean that either the spec is wrong or all >> implementations are. > > 100%

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-07 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 09:31 +0100, Kevin Smith wrote: > > Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to > > support my expectation that they are sent from the JID the original > > presence was sent to. That'd mean that either the spec is wrong or all > > implementations are. >

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-07 Thread Kevin Smith
> Anecdotal evidence from different service implementations seems to > support my expectation that they are sent from the JID the original > presence was sent to. That'd mean that either the spec is wrong or all > implementations are. 100% of the servers that I tested this against (sample size: 1)

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-07 Thread Waqas Hussain
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Ralph Meijer wrote: > Hi, > > I've been reviewing the code in the branch for MUC client support in > Wokkel against XEP-0045. I noticed that the examples for error > conditions in reply to room join and status and nick change presences > are sent from the room JID,

[Standards] XEP-0045 Multi-User Chat presence errors

2011-08-07 Thread Ralph Meijer
Hi, I've been reviewing the code in the branch for MUC client support in Wokkel against XEP-0045. I noticed that the examples for error conditions in reply to room join and status and nick change presences are sent from the room JID, instead from the occupant JID the presence (change) was sent to.