On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 12:19 +0200, Alexander Holler wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Am 07.08.2011 19:27, schrieb Waqas Hussain:
> > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Smith<ke...@kismith.co.uk>  wrote:
> 
> > XMPP errors always come from the JID the stanza was sent to, not from
> > the entity which actually generated the error. An obvious example is
> 
> Exactly, RFC 6120 defines this in section 8.3.1. Therefore many if not 
> all of the examples of returned errors in XEP-0045 7.2 are in breach to 
> RFC 6120.
> 
> I think some ranting is necessary: ;)
> Maybe nobody has seen this before because of all the shakespeare names 
> which just seem to be there to confuse readers. I personally find that 
> XEP one of the worst to read and often had problems to guess what entity 
> (room, service, occupant or normal user) is the sender or receiver of a 
> stanza in the examples in XEP-0045.

Agreed. I thought we had addressed [1] this already in a spec overhaul,
but that is still a work in progress. In Wokkel I make a distinction
between 'Room JID' and 'Occupant JID' per that new vocabulary.

[1] http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2009-June/022164.html

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