On Dienstag, 30. Juni 2020 17:59:34 CEST Jonas Schäfer wrote:
> Hi list,
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> (Editor hat on)
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> On behalf of the Council, I’d like to bring this pull request to the
> attention of the community:
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> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
Okay, this took me a long time to look at. I think
My apologies for not replying to this one, though I think it's covered
elsewhere in this discussion. For completeness:
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 13:28, Philipp Hancke
wrote:
> If the receiving server follows the process described in #9 of
>https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0178.html#s2s
> which
Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2020, 11:27 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, den 07.07.2020, 10:55 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > If Alice connects and authenticates Bob via some means, and Bob
> > > authenticates Alice by some
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 07.07.2020, 10:55 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:41, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Ruslan N. Marchenko:
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> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 13:19
Am Dienstag, den 07.07.2020, 10:55 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:41, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Ruslan N. Marchenko:
> > > Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 13:19 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 15:41, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Ruslan N. Marchenko:
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> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 13:19 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 10:46
Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Ruslan N. Marchenko:
> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 13:19 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> > wrote:
> > > Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at
Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 13:19 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 22:13, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> > > wrote:
> > > > Am Samstag, den 04.07.2020,
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:44, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 22:13, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Am Samstag, den 04.07.2020, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Ruslan
Am Montag, den 06.07.2020, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 22:13, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Samstag, den 04.07.2020, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> > > wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020,
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 22:13, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 04.07.2020, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 17:31,
Am Samstag, den 04.07.2020, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> > > wrote:
> > > > Because Alice's
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Because Alice's authentication fails on this particualr conneciton? So it
> may be not Alice after all
Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Because Alice's authentication fails on this particualr conneciton?
> > So it may be not Alice after all speaking, despite what 'from'
> > tells (or does not). From
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 10:37 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
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> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 17:59, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
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> Am Dienstag, den 30.06.2020, 17:59 +0200 schrieb Jonas Schäfer:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > (Editor hat on)
> >
Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2020, 10:37 +0100 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 17:59, Ruslan N. Marchenko
> wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, den 30.06.2020, 17:59 +0200 schrieb Jonas Schäfer:
> >
> > > Hi list,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > (Editor hat on)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On behalf of the
If the receiving server follows the process described in #9 of
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0178.html#s2s
which says that you do the authentication at this point (and then again
in #11) how can external fail?
If the receiving server can not authenticate the request its a policy
decision to
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 19:59, Holger Weiß wrote:
> * Jonas Schäfer [2020-06-30 17:59]:
> > On behalf of the Council, I'd like to bring this pull request to the
> attention
> > of the community:
> >
> > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
>
> Wait, is this PR actually modifying the
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 10:41, Dave Cridland wrote:
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> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Kim Alvefur wrote:
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>> This does result in a number of different possible configurations. Not
>> great for something security related. Personally I hope we might be able
>> to phase out Dialback in the
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Kim Alvefur wrote:
> This does result in a number of different possible configurations. Not
> great for something security related. Personally I hope we might be able
> to phase out Dialback in the future. Today, largely thanks to Let's
> Encrypt, more and more
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 17:59, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 30.06.2020, 17:59 +0200 schrieb Jonas Schäfer:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > (Editor hat on)
> >
> > On behalf of the Council, I’d like to bring this pull request to the
> > attention
> > of the community:
> >
> >
* Jonas Schäfer [2020-06-30 17:59]:
> On behalf of the Council, I'd like to bring this pull request to the
> attention
> of the community:
>
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
Wait, is this PR actually modifying the authentication step it intends
to change? I was assuming we're talking
Hello list
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 05:59:34PM +0200, Jonas Schäfer wrote:
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
>
> Input from server operators specifically would be welcomed to see if
> this change is in fact desirable or if you can see any issues with
> that. At least one member of the
Am Dienstag, den 30.06.2020, 19:27 +0200 schrieb Holger Weiß:
> * Ruslan N. Marchenko [2020-06-30 18:58]:
> > Now if EXTERNAL fails - that means there's something wrong with the
> > certificates. And proposal to fail back to dialback means we want
> > to
> > tolerate certificate validation
* Ruslan N. Marchenko [2020-06-30 18:58]:
> Now if EXTERNAL fails - that means there's something wrong with the
> certificates. And proposal to fail back to dialback means we want to
> tolerate certificate validation errors. Which is a downgrade.
Whether or not this downgrade is acceptable is a
Am Dienstag, den 30.06.2020, 17:59 +0200 schrieb Jonas Schäfer:
> Hi list,
>
> (Editor hat on)
>
> On behalf of the Council, I’d like to bring this pull request to the
> attention
> of the community:
>
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
>
> Input from server operators specifically would
Hi list,
(Editor hat on)
On behalf of the Council, I’d like to bring this pull request to the attention
of the community:
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/963
Input from server operators specifically would be welcomed to see if this
change is in fact desirable or if you can see any issues
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