Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-03 Thread JC Brand
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 12:06:20PM +0200, Georg Lukas wrote: > While message reordering doesn't exist in XMPP (at least in theory), the > "blockchain" of corrections provides a cleanly ordered relation over all > corresponding corrections, whereas with the 'right' way, all corrections > are equa

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-03 Thread JC Brand
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 02:15:24PM +0200, Georg Lukas wrote: > > > While message reordering doesn't exist in XMPP (at least in theory), > > > [...] all corrections are equal and the latest one wins. > > …which is fine, AFAICS. > > While a little bit tongue-in-cheek, my comment was intended to p

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-02 Thread Georg Lukas
[stripping out the arguments I don't disagree with, to further illuminate a specific point] * Kevin Smith [2019-04-02 13:03]: > I don’t really think what you’re looking for here is a clarification > of the intent of the XEP, but a change of behaviour. I can agree with that, so in retrospect, the

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-02 Thread Kevin Smith
On 2 Apr 2019, at 11:06, Georg Lukas wrote: > thank you for picking this up again, and I'm sorry for the -1. I wrote > in the Meeting that it's not impossible to convince me to change my > mind, but you have to provide very strong arguments… I don’t really think what you’re looking for here is a

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-02 Thread Georg Lukas
Hello Kev, thank you for picking this up again, and I'm sorry for the -1. I wrote in the Meeting that it's not impossible to convince me to change my mind, but you have to provide very strong arguments... * Kevin Smith [2019-04-02 10:52]: > It’s the original message @id - if you follow the rules

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2019-04-02 Thread Kevin Smith
Sorry that this got buried in my mailbox and I didn’t notice it. On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:32, Georg Lukas wrote: > when correcting a previously corrected message, do you reference the > original message @id or the message @id of the last correction to that > message? It’s the original message @id -

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Philipp Hörist
Or i dont see why this should make a difference? The last message gives you in both cases the current content, and you need in both cases all other messages to display the correction history Am Sa., 17. Nov. 2018 um 18:46 Uhr schrieb Ненахов Андрей < andrew.nenak...@redsolution.ru>: >

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Philipp Hörist
Gajim corrects always the last message that was sent over the wire. regards Philipp ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org __

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Ненахов Андрей
I tend to think that title of this XEP is misleading and that any message should be possible to correct. Also, I'd rather use the original message ID, because the replaced message should be stored on original message place in history (with a timestamp of original message, though possibly amended w

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Georg Lukas
* Jonas Schäfer [2018-11-17 17:39]: > I tend slightly towards posting subsequent corrections against the original > @id. This is because in my mind, the correction replaces the payload, not the > message itself. However, if all current implementations refer to the ID of > the > previous correc

Re: [Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Samstag, 17. November 2018 17:32:26 CET Georg Lukas wrote: > Hi, > > when correcting a previously corrected message, do you reference the > original message @id or the message @id of the last correction to that > message? > > The XEP proclaims: > | A single message may be corrected multiple ti

[Standards] XEP-0308: LMC of a previous correction

2018-11-17 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, when correcting a previously corrected message, do you reference the original message @id or the message @id of the last correction to that message? The XEP proclaims: | A single message may be corrected multiple times by subsequent edits. which kind of leaves this question open, and from a