DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14693] - ErrorsTag.java - Output message key if lookup to message db fails

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14730] - does not filter UK pound signs correctly

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14829] - request to be listed

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cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/resources consultants.xml

2002-11-25 Thread dgraham
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14752] - Add consultant name to "Consultants" section request.

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RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
As soon as you start using the single character prefix, we'll start getting questions like, "Is the h taglib the same as the html taglib?". If Struts goes to single character prefixes, then you should too but I really don't want to confuse new people with this. It's not rocket science but I kn

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Raible
> > That being said, the JSTL libraries went pretty much towards > this approach (single-character prefixes where feasible), and > I'm currently leaning that way on JavaServer Faces as well. > IT makes sense to consider this. > So are you saying that I should go ahead and use this single-dig

Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread Rob Leland
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Since we went to all the effort to change ApplicationConfig to ModuleConfig in the first place, we should complete the task and banish it from any non-deprecated APIs that we have. This whole change did make me pretty squeamish :-), but a half-completed change is

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/example/org/apache/struts/webapp/example/memory MemoryDatabasePlugIn.java

2002-11-25 Thread rleland
rleland 2002/11/25 18:44:15 Modified:src/example/org/apache/struts/webapp/example/memory MemoryDatabasePlugIn.java Log: Update example to use ModuleConfig Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +7 -12 jakarta-struts/src/example/org/apache/struts/webap

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/validator ValidatorPlugIn.java

2002-11-25 Thread rleland
rleland 2002/11/25 18:37:40 Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/tiles TilesPlugin.java src/share/org/apache/struts/validator ValidatorPlugIn.java Log: Remoce PlugInPatch references. Revision ChangesPath 1.13 +4 -5 jakarta-struts/src/share/org/ap

cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/validator ValidatorPlugIn.java

2002-11-25 Thread rleland
rleland 2002/11/25 18:33:07 Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/action ActionServlet.java PlugIn.java src/share/org/apache/struts/tiles TilesPlugin.java src/share/org/apache/struts/validator ValidatorPlugIn.java Removed: src/sh

Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Ted Husted wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:49:31 -0500 > From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated > > For the record

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Matt Raible wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:40:27 -0700 > From: Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'Struts Developers List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form el

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:25:29 -0700 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements > > I don't see wh

RE: Struts logo

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Leland
I suggested a previous logo back in July but there wasn't any feedback, every body must have been on vacation. Take a look at the original post it contains some very interesting links to the types of the logo's I had in mind. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-user&m=102779133515796&w=3 -Ro

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
This is eerily similar to my tag which generates field labels, along with an asterisk if its a required field and a different style (currently red) if the field is in error. This will be part of the app I post up this week too. Erik Matt Raible wrote: I agree, and does require more work, co

Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
For the record, I'm with David. A beta is a beta. Any application advanced enough to be using ApplicationConfig directly is advanced enough to do a little renaming when moving from b2 to b3. I support the commitment to provide backward compatability between releases; but, IMHO, backward compat

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Karr, David
This may not have any effect on the implementation, but also note that another legal form of the "label" component is to NOT specify a "for" attribute, but assume that the nested content is the component the label is for. It looks like the only way adding this tag could be of any benefit is if we

Re: Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
Personally, I don't think we want to put ourselves into a position where we have to start "carding" requests to be put on a link page. If it's not a rule that a robot can enforce (like a link to the Struts home page), then I would suggest that we just drop the page entirely. After all, now-a-

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Oliver Burn
A major downside of DynaBeans is that you lose all notion of compile type safety/checking. This is also one of its major strengths. It takes a lot of discipline to not pollute your code with magic strings - which leads to a potential maintenance nightmares. I find this all the time in code inspect

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
Yes, it would create more confusion. It's better to present a consistent view of the taglibs to users instead of using various non-standard names. David From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PRO

RE: Struts logo

2002-11-25 Thread Daniel Honig
Well for whatever worth this comment may have... I think the last logo with the beer is the best of the logos on the page I've enjoyed the fact that when searching monster and other it-job sites for struts I'm presented with jobs requiring "Auto Shop" struts experience. Perhaps a logo that t

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Raible
I agree, and does require more work, considering: Is more typing than: ... Maybe something like this would make it more useful: I was thinking of reducing the prefixes in my struts-xdoclet app from: html -> h logic -> l bean -> b tiles -> t nested -> n Would this create t

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
I don't see what advantage the tag has over hand coding the html. Looks like the same amount of work to me. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Enhancement

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Karr, David
> -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I think a way to create elements would be very useful. I just > don't think we should embed it in the existing UI element > tags (for the > reasons that others have articulated. > > (I thought you tied labe

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Erik Hatcher wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:11:12 -0500 > From: Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Strut

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Matt Raible wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:10:33 -0700 > From: Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements > > I thought I'd run this

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
XDoclet already ships with builtin struts-config.xml generation, validatio.xml generation, and Struts form bean generation (from entity beans, and maybe for value objects?). I'm not sure what is needed to make the presentation of this stuff better, but its all there for the taking and works ver

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Oh yes ;) So it's about Struts tools, how can we package a set of Struts tools for Java/XML generation (Struts-XDoclet, EasyStruts, Console). Perhaps we need to create an API based on struts configuration classes (org.apache.struts.config.*) for writing Struts XML/JSP/Java files. This API can be

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
Emmanuel Boudrant wrote: Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) I guess Ted is referring to me :) Erik http://erik.hatcher.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Karr, David
It would be good to provide some sort of automated support for this component, but I don't see how we can possibly assume where the label component will be placed. Yes, it could be used for prototypes, but I'd rather not build a framework that people use to build throwaway code. The annoying part

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
I think it's great to use label elements but I wouldn't use what you proposed. My labels are typically in a separate table cell than the input field and the tag wouldn't handle that. If we did add this support I would be in favor of the labelKey attribute but not the label attribute. We shou

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Just a question, who is Erik ? ;) --- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > The struts-blank.war at SourceForge is the 1.0 version of the > blank application for 1.1. So, the best answer would be blank.war > for 1.1 and the struts-blank.war for 1.0. =:0) > > Of course, if you and Erik w

Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread Matt Raible
I thought I'd run this idea by the development team before entering it into Bugzilla. One of the items that is required with 508 compliance is a value for each form element: For example: Name: More information at: http://www.csuohio.edu/uctl/508/forms.html This would typically be rendered w

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14829] New: - request to be listed

2002-11-25 Thread bugzilla
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RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Andrew Hill wrote: > > A DOM based rendering methodology might be more appropriate for this sort of > thing. > Those interested in DOM-based rendering, which you can then run through an appropriate XSLT processing pipeline, should also take a look at STXX: http://stxx.so

Re: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
Yup, no problem. In fact, its been my plan all along to get this example posted online. The folks that have attended the Complete Programmer symposiums where I've spoken and also the folks that attended my ApacheCon presentation already have access to it (or could e-mail me to get it). I've

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread James Mitchell
Can you create a small sample application to demonstrate how easy it is? Create a project from the struts-example to do this. I've done this a few times with other issues/concepts (jsp under web-inf, bundle from the database, etc). I'll host the download if you want, or we can get into the struts

Re: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
Let me just emphasize the downsides that I mentioned already... using DynaForms would mean that I would be hand-coding struts-config.xml and validation.xml. By writing a ValidatorActionForm Java class for all my forms I have to do neither now, and XDoclet is automatically generating these conf

RE: Adding doc to user guide on indexed/mapped properties/tags

2002-11-25 Thread Karr, David
Acknowledged. I've finished writing what I was going to put into the user guide, but I'll move that to a "howto" section and replace it with a short paragraph in both the "Model" and "View" sections in the user guide which will just refer to the howto section. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-25 Thread edgar
Very interesting. Since these appear to be 'competing technologies' I see you have chosen Struts over barracuda. There was a long comparison on the enhydra site which paints XMLC in a good light, but without a detailed investingation doesn't mean much. My questions are: 1) Are the techn

RE: Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-25 Thread James Mitchell
+1 I would think that anyone advertising themselves as a consultant would (at the least) be in a position to accept 1099 gigs, and would therefore (but not always) be Incorporated. Also, I'm +1 for making everyone upload a picture of themselves chuggin on a Jakarta-Struts beer ;) -- James Mitche

Re: Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
I think we should post theses rules on the consultants page: 1. This is for corporations only, not individual's resumes. 2. Struts must be mentioned on the page being linked to. What do you think? David From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: [Unverified Sender] RE: RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2) (long)

2002-11-25 Thread Nelson, Laird
> -Original Message- > From: Nelson, Laird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > -Original Message- > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > IMHO, the best way to use XML is as a generator/decorator for > > objects. One decoration might be to pass a script to a Java class > >

Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
My personal preference is to remove ApplicationConfig altogether since it hasn't been in a release but other committers don't feel the same way. I empathize with your situation but you need to educate your QA people that they're being rediculous (easier said than done). David From: "Cump

RE: RE: servletMapping field in ActionServlet (1.0.2) (long)

2002-11-25 Thread Nelson, Laird
> -Original Message- > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > IMHO, the best way to use XML is as a generator/decorator for > objects. One decoration might be to pass a script to a Java class > for processing, but framing conditions in a XML files seems to > step over the line to

Re: Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
The intention was that Struts had to be mentioned on the page on the other end of the link. If this page is becoming problematic, and we want to drop the whole thing, I wouldn't complain. (The day I did it, I said I would live to regret it =:0) -Ted. 11/24/2002 10:51:46 PM, David Graham <[EM

Re: blank.war vs. struts-blank.war [was: Re: Tools in Struts]

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
The struts-blank.war at SourceForge is the 1.0 version of the blank application for 1.1. So, the best answer would be blank.war for 1.1 and the struts-blank.war for 1.0. =:0) Of course, if you and Erik wanted to work on struts-xdoclet through the SF site, just send me your SF ids =:0) -Ted. 1

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Afshartous, Nick
Sounds like there are many benefits to using DynaForms but is there any downside ? For instance, not having explicit getters means using a generic get method that has return type Object. This in turn means having to use typecasts to cast from Object to some other type The drawbacks of typecast

Re: Adding doc to user guide on indexed/mapped properties/tags

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
Personally, I'm finding that the user guide format is becoming a pain to maintain. I'd like to start moving some material out into their own HOWTO sections, especially anything that includes a significant amount of code. Some of the sections I was looking at include 4.2.1 => how to write an D

Re: Separate documentation download.

2002-11-25 Thread Ted Husted
I think it would make sense to put something like this into a separate WAR. It might then make sense to have a single convenience download, along with the option to download each WAR separately (documentation, exercize, example, gui). Also, if helped with something like this, we could also off

PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread Cumps, Jan {TROP}
I have a problem with the deprecated ApplicationConfig class, and still requiring it in the PlugIn interface. It is not possible to create a PlugIn implementation without refering to ApplicationConfig (even when using PlugInPatch, you have to implement PlugIn). This gives deprecate warnings. Some

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14042] - Memory leaks with JBoss 3.x +(Tomcat/Jetty)

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