Re: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-21 Thread Ted Husted
11/20/2002 3:09:36 AM, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As for DynaActionForm's I still don't get their benefit. Do >you use them? Or right ActionForm subclasses? Its even less >code to "write" to do a form bean for me, because my IDE >generates all the getter/setters, and being ab

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Afshartous, Nick
discussion about this ? Nick -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:45 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Benefits of Dynaforms 11/20/2002 3:09:36 AM, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As for DynaActio

Re: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
--- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:45 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Benefits of Dynaforms 11/20/2002 3:09:36 AM, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for DynaActionForm's I still don't get their benefit. D

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread James Mitchell
; -Original Message- > From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:12 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Benefits of Dynaforms > > > Let me just emphasize the downsides that I mentioned already... using > DynaForms would mea

Re: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
-Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:45 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Benefits of Dynaforms 11/20/2002 3:09:36 AM, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for DynaActionForm's I still don'

RE: Benefits of Dynaforms

2002-11-25 Thread Oliver Burn
compile time safety. > -Original Message- > From: Afshartous, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 10:27 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Benefits of Dynaforms > > > > Sounds like there are many benefits to using D

Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Andre Beskrowni
ok, this one sentence in ted's post caught my eye: > I rarely write custom Actions any more. whoah. how is this possible? most of our web pages represent some sort of database operation: displaying, creating, updating, or deleting. i can see how you can minimize the amount of code that would

RE: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Satterwhite, Frank
Can anyone point me to the apis for dynaforms (beans) fs -Original Message- From: Andre Beskrowni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:48 AM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms) ok, this one sentence in

RE: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Andre Beskrowni
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:56 AM > To: 'Struts Developers List' > Subject: RE: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms) > > > Can anyone point me to the apis for dynaforms (beans) > > fs > > -Original Message- > From: Andre Be

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-22 Thread Ted Husted
The idea behind a Struts Action is that it suppose to give you a place to call your business logic components. Rather than call various business processes through a subclass, I continue the decorator pattern by declaring the process to call as part of the ActionMapping. I then use a standard

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-26 Thread John Yu
At 04:40 am 23-11-2002, you wrote: The idea behind a Struts Action is that it suppose to give you a place to call your business logic components. Rather than call various business processes through a subclass, I continue the decorator pattern by declaring the process to call as part of the ActionM

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-27 Thread Ted Husted
The Actions are generic, but the ActionMappings are not =:0) The ActionMapping passes command tokens to the standard Action so that it knows which business process to invoke. The business facade returns a result object with can carry messages, data, and/or dispatch advice. The messages are S

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-28 Thread John Yu
Ted, So, with respect to the "routing instructions", you create a common abstraction ("success", "failure", etc) describing the exit path of the business process. Gotcha. Thanks. -- John At 06:50 pm 27-11-2002, you wrote: The Actions are generic, but the ActionMappings are not =:0) The Action

Re: Custom Actions? (was RE: Benefits of Dynaforms)

2002-11-28 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, but only if something unusual happens. In the normal course, the struts-config routings fall through. The core idea is that the abstractions belong to *my* application interface. The struts-config is implementing these abstractions on behalf of the greater application. Just as the languag