RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Assenza, Chris
That's a good point, but what about when your scriptlets are controlling the presentation? Ie. you've got dynamic row changes, or entirely different tables of output being displayed depending on a flag on the request (assuming you can't generecize the output) - and the designer needs to change

RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Tim Colson
Chris - Assenza, Chris wrote : I generally would not let [Designers] edit JSP's at all taglibs or not, unless they had experience with JSP or ASP. Yikes. ;-) I agree partially - I too have a dim view that Designers can effectively modify JSP files w/ or w/o taglibs. But I think that in an

Re: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Bill Clinton
Greg, I think you are exagerating a bit when you say that Struts taglibs--and other taglibs--introduce, in essence, yet another language that we all have to learn. Comparing a handful of scripting tags that, for the most part, correspond directly to existing html tags to the learning of

RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Kusch, John
, and the developer gets to focus on development. --John Kusch -Original Message- From: Bill Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer? Greg, I think you are exagerating

Re: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Luis Olivares
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer? That's a good point, but what about when your scriptlets are controlling the presentation? Ie. you've got dynamic row changes, or entirely

RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Greg Maletic
the separation between designer and developer? Greg, I think you are exagerating a bit when you say that Struts taglibs--and other taglibs--introduce, in essence, yet another language that we all have to learn. Comparing a handful of scripting tags that, for the most part, correspond directly

Re: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?

2001-08-01 Thread Ted Husted
Bill Clinton wrote: The line between designer and developer is a blurry one and differs in most organizations. But in my last few postions, my experience has been that HTML proficiency is no longer a given for web designers. Macromedia Dreamweaver seems to be the tool of choice for most

custom XSL struts taglib (was: Re: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer?)

2001-08-01 Thread Jon Brisbin
, MO - Original Message - From: Greg Maletic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: RE: Taglibs decrease the separation between designer and developer? Hi, Bill-- I completely agree that Struts Taglibs are much cleaner than the pure