Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-19 Thread joni santoso
i am looking forward to it. On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:01:48 -0500 V. Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will post here when I am ready soon. Glad there is interest, I got some private e-mail. As I plan to donate materials to Jakarta I would like to see if some of the Advanced Pros

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-17 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Snipping to just the questions. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, joni santoso wrote: * Design patterns (at the programming level) any good sites for learning this? I read already the theoretical ones but at the programming level, sometimes I'm still confused to use which DP. The classic text (and the

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-17 Thread V. Cekvenich
I will post here when I am ready soon. Glad there is interest, I got some private e-mail. As I plan to donate materials to Jakarta I would like to see if some of the Advanced Pros would want to participate, so that one of them could teach next online seminar, or maybe even document

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-17 Thread Mark Galbreath
way for learning struts (stupid question) Snipping to just the questions. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, joni santoso wrote: * Design patterns (at the programming level) any good sites for learning this? I read already the theoretical ones but at the programming level, sometimes I'm still confused

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-17 Thread Edgar Dollin
' Subject: Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question) On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, joni santoso wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:33:21 +0700 From: joni santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The best way for learning

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-16 Thread Jacob Hookom
If you want to do up a simple application that involves persisting data, here is what you want to start out with (includes open source library recommendations): First you need to do RDD Analysis, which is Responsibility Driven Design.That means, make a list of everything you want your

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-16 Thread V. Cekvenich
http://www.sdtimes.com/news/063/story2.htm Tomcat has most market share (above) and best support. (Check out PostgreSQL and Eclipse). Re: training: I plan to do public training Intermediate Struts via the Internet, in about a month. 4 Sessions Saturdays at 10:15 for about an hour, giving

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-16 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, joni santoso wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:13:38 +0700 From: joni santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-16 Thread Mark Galbreath
Yep - the product (BizFlo) I was just hired to use for EAI for clients all over North America uses Tomcat 4.x as its container: www.handysoft.com Mark -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:47 PM On Thu, 16 Jan

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-16 Thread Joyce Gu
Hello, Do you have the web address and we can refer to when you start your training session? I have worked on Strut for seven months now. I learned by myself. However, I would like to have a formal training and I really like that the idea that you will give home work too. Thanks At 08:31 AM

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread Andrew Hill
Best way to learn a new tech is usually to try using it to do something - just leap in and start work on whatever project you will be using it for. Of course you may later need to refactor early mistakes , but thats all part of the learning process ;-) -Original Message- From: joni

RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread Phase Web and Multimedia
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RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread Hookom, Jacob John
I agree with Andrew about jumping into it. Really though, you should become familiar with J2EE Design Patterns, there are quite a few books out there to pick up. Once you know the patterns, then things just come easier when you see people talk about Service Layers and MVC, etc. One good

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, joni santoso wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:33:21 +0700 From: joni santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The best way for learning struts (stupid question) Hi, Now, I can already make struts

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread joni santoso
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:56:31 -0600 Hookom, Jacob John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Andrew about jumping into it. Really though, you should become familiar with J2EE Design Patterns, there are quite a few books out there to pick up. Once you know the patterns, then things just come

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The best way for learning struts

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread joni santoso
* The Servlet API -- foundation to every Java-based web application It's probably worth throwing in installing and configuring a servlet container like Tomcat at about this point. Many of us have the luxury of sysadmins who takt that task on, but it's a very useful skill to know how to

[OT] rewards for persevering and becoming [WAS: RE: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)]

2003-01-15 Thread Andrew Hill
for more mundane pursuits (such as sleeping or spending time with family)... :-( -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:57 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question) On Thu

Re: The best way for learning struts (stupid question)

2003-01-15 Thread joni santoso
* Fundamentals of object-oriented programming * Java as a programming language done them. * Design patterns (at the programming level) any good sites for learning this? I read already the theoretical ones but at the programming level, sometimes I'm still confused to use which DP. *