Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-19 Thread Martin Měřinský
> I wasn't able to find an official reference for PADI, either. According to PADI AOWD manual: bar/min or psi/min. According to DSAT Tec: l/min. Martin M. ___ subsurface mailing list subsurface@subsurface-divelog.org

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread James Cialdea
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Remember, we always show the unit (l/min or cuft/min), so it's clear that SAC > isn't a pressure drop. Side note - In the mobile app, I see only "cuft", not "cuft/min". Clearly, the numbers being shown are "cuft/min" - I

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Dirk Hohndel
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Willem Ferguson > wrote: > > On 18/07/2017 19:14, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> >> Absolutely *everybody* knows what we mean by SAC rate. And the ones >> that are offended by our use of standard terminology can be offended. >> >>

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Willem Ferguson
On 18/07/2017 19:14, Linus Torvalds wrote: Absolutely *everybody* knows what we mean by SAC rate. And the ones that are offended by our use of standard terminology can be offended. It's their problem, not ours. Let's not take on their mental baggage. Linus Part of this

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread John Van Ostrand
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Willem Ferguson < willemfergu...@zoology.up.ac.za> wrote: > This is in some ways a sensitive issue and maybe reflect existing > discussion on this mail list that I am not aware of. The term "Surface Air > Consumption" (SAC) is probably used wrongly most of the

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Dirk Hohndel
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Linus Torvalds > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Linus Torvalds > wrote: >> >> Absolutely *everybody* knows what we mean by SAC rate. And the ones >> that are offended by our use of

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Absolutely *everybody* knows what we mean by SAC rate. And the ones > that are offended by our use of standard terminology can be offended. The takeaway here really is that even the people who have have

Re: Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Willem Ferguson wrote: > > Shouldn't we at some stage get the terminology accurate and replace SAC in > the UI throughout with RMV? No, I really don't think so. The scuba world has a lot of random terminology that may be

Issues with SAC terminology

2017-07-18 Thread Willem Ferguson
This is in some ways a sensitive issue and maybe reflect existing discussion on this mail list that I am not aware of. The term "Surface Air Consumption" (SAC) is probably used wrongly most of the time, including by myself. This is because it is conflated with the Respiratory Minute Volume