On 13.05.2008, at 19:33, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> | I agree that limiting the number of components released as a whole
> | brings important benefits. I think that the idea of releasing some
> | activities as part of Sugar is because they provide "services" that
> | are c
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree that limiting the number of components released as a whole
> > brings important benefits.
>
> Can we explicitly enumerate the
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> | I agree that limiting the number of components released as a whole
> | brings important benefits. I think that the idea of releasing some
> | activities as part of Sugar is because they
Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 17:03 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit :
> This subclasses TubeConnection to make a version (SugarTubeConnection)
> that can resolve a handle to a Buddy.
>
> Patches are for sugar(.presence) and Connect.
+handle = self._conn.GetSelfHandle()
Why call the GetSelfHa
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008
>
> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
>
> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
Perso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Coordinating a release requires effort from the release team and from
> each of the component maintainers. If we reach a sufficiently high
> number of components to coordinate, we'll need to increase the
> sophisticatio
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008 à 11:48 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit :
> * Groups, models for groups (Peru, Hernan)
>
> Is this groups in Sugar? Do we have some kind of requirements?
There are some discussions about groups here:
https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4043
G.
Hi all,
have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008
* More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
* More notifications?
How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more fee
Hi, sorry for the delay.
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Martin Dengler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +def get_mute(self):
You use 'muted' instead of 'mute' below, which one is more correct?
> +if not self._mixer or not self._master:
> +logging.error('Cannot get the m
I think we should setup a server to take advantage of the logs upload
functionality and include it in the release.
Since most of our software is python, logs (and backtraces) are
*extremely* useful. Hence we should encourage distributors to ship it
and document it on the wiki as an essential step
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> I think we should setup a server to take advantage of the logs upload
> functionality and include it in the release.
>
> Since most of our software is python, logs (and backtraces) are
> *extremely* useful. Hence we should encourage distributors to ship it
> and docum
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree on this, the Sugar core shouldn't depend on any activity and
> should also (aim to) give equal chances to all activity authors.
>
>
Fairly well maintained judging from trac. It has educational value.
It's part of the Peru activity pack. Personally I think it should be
in.
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Reinier Heeres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Short description of the features:
>
> - Mathematics for kids, both basic fe
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13.05.2008, at 19:33, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > | I agree that limiting the number of components released as a whole
> > | brings important benefits. I think that the idea of releas
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For example the browse activity - this endorses one specific browser
> implementation,
It just provides an hint to distributor about what the development
community consider the best browser for the platform. Distribu
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Datastore upgrade
>
> Which are the requirements for the DataStore in the August release?
I think it was proposed to focus on backups for August and "address"
stability concerns that way. At this date and with all t
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008
> >
> > * More responsive UI - faster launch o
"Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.05.2008 11:48:19:
>
> * Sugar on other distro (mgmt)
>
> On which other distro? Which are the requirements? What means "(mgmt)"?
Would anybody mind if I start pushing freedesktop.org Desktop Menu
compliance: http://standards.freedesktop.org/m
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the cp maybe?
Not sure. It would be probably cleaner architecture wise (think of
multiple activities that access the logs).
User experience wise it might be better to have this in context
though, and I'm not sure
"Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>schrieb am 13.05.2008 18:41:57:
> Ah. I was missing a subtly: do we agree that activities can be
> released on their own timeframe, but that some activities are released
> with the Sugar releases? For example, Write could be updated whenever
> the Abiword team fee
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 14.05.2008 11:48:19:
>
> >
> > * Sugar on other distro (mgmt)
> >
> > On which other distro? Which are the requirements? What means "(mgmt)"?
>
> Would anybody mind if I start pus
On 14.05.2008, at 11:22, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> does this mean that the full-time Sugar team should stop
> maintaining any activities and focus on the "core"? I would love to do
> so, but I'm afraid that Sugar won't reach its goals if we don't make
> sure that some very basic activities keep growin
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Without any dependency checking in the .xo files and no information at all
> that e.g. VideoChat Version X is supposed to work with Sugar version Y you
> are forced to spend many frustrating hours rechecking everything with each
> and
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you implying above that this is the
> set of activities maintained by full-time Sugar team members?
I don't think full-time or volunteer has any relevance here. It's more
about developers which are directly involv
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or, more concretely, should Etoys be considered?
I think Sugar would have great benefits if Etoys was included. It's
best the educational application we have. And it's also the hardest to
integrate. It would help ensur
* Short description of the features:
Easy to use but powerful word processor with real time collaboration
between any number of users.
Suggested words for spelling mistakes for Update.2.
Bug fixes
* Screenshots or screencasts:
Mockup: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_write.jpg
* Are yo
Essential, collaborative, well maintained. Totally in IMO.
Thanks,
Marco
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Short description of the features:
>
> Easy to use but powerful word processor with real time collaboration
> between any number of users.
>
> Suggested wor
> * New Sugar UI? Should continue with some specific goals on how to
> roll out the new features so it won't be difficult for people. Wad
> brought up the issue that Peru has already started printing a manual
> based on the old UI.
I've been talking with the Peru folks about this too. The percen
It certainly used to... Sharing variables is pretty cool!
-walter
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fairly well maintained judging from trac. It has educational value.
> It's part of the Peru activity pack. Personally I think it should be
> in.
>
See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Modules
Please link your name to a page people can use to contact you. You can
use the User page on sugarlabs.org.
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Please add the Homepage and link the developers to a page people can
use to contact you. I'm going to change the Release page to request
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> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
>
> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse
(from the time I click in the F3 Activity Ring on the Browse icon,
to the time when I can clic
It still does!
Regards,
Reinier
Walter Bender wrote:
> It certainly used to... Sharing variables is pretty cool!
>
> -walter
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Fairly well maintained judging from trac. It has educational value.
>> It's
was that joyride or the faster build?
-walter
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
>>
>> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
>
> I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1.
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
> >
> > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
>
> I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse
> (from
>> >I made a fresh sugar install following the wiki recipe for Ubuntu
>> >Feisty with sugar-jhbuild. After a few stops I have did.
>> >ImportError: No module named numpy
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> config/sysdeps/ubuntu-7.10.xml has pyt
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Morgan Collett
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The package is python-numpy, but Feisty is ubuntu 7.04.
>>
>> I copied the ubuntu-7.10 sysdeps to ubuntu-7.04 and pushed in git.
>
> F
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The package is python-numpy, but Feisty is ubuntu 7.04.
>
> I copied the ubuntu-7.10 sysdeps to ubuntu-7.04 and pushed in git.
Forgive my Ubuntu ignorance, what's the relation between 7.10 and
7.04? Are they two differe
I got my hands on a One2OneMate last night. It is a pretty cool
machine. The keyboard is full, their is a touch screen, built in
wireless, some expansion slots, etc. It is light, runs quiet and cool.
It comes with a nice suite of applications: Konqueror, a PDF viewer, a
note pad, typing tutor, Tux
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 17:03 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit :
>> This subclasses TubeConnection to make a version (SugarTubeConnection)
>> that can resolve a handle to a Buddy.
>>
>> Patches are for sugar(.presence) a
Walter Bender wrote:
> I got my hands on a One2OneMate last night. It is a pretty cool
> machine. The keyboard is full, their is a touch screen, built in
> wireless, some expansion slots, etc. It is light, runs quiet and cool.
Yes, yes... but the important uber-geek question is: have you
dalready
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I got my hands on a One2OneMate last night. It is a pretty cool
> machine. The keyboard is full, their is a touch screen, built in
> wireless, some expansion slots, etc. It is light, runs quiet and cool.
> It comes with a
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So 6.10 is no longer supported, but 7.04 is. There weren't
> world-changing differences, so the sysdeps should basically be the
> same.
>
> (If not, we'll find out soon enough...)
Yeah, my question didn't really make
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008 à 15:58 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit :
> In case it is a channel with channel specific handles...
>
> if self.self_handle == cs_handle:
> # It's me, just get my global handle
> handle = self._conn.GetSelfHandle()
>
> We either need to call GetSelfHandle re
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Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
| Blessing a browser is not going to remove competition.
|
| In practice, GNOME blesses a browser and despite most of the
| distributor/users are using another one, with no interoperability
| issues.
This is the key example
One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install
compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not
use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle format update
stuff, but I have gotten stuck on the signatures (openssl cannot read ssh
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
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> Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> | Blessing a browser is not going to remove competition.
> |
> | In practice, GNOME blesses a browser and despite most of the
>
> If you could download the latest joyride, time startup and open a
> ticket that would be useful. 25 seconds are too much obviously.
I took the time on Joyride 1932, which had been manually updated
(via yum install) with cups-libs 1:1.2.12-11.fc7 and telepathy-glib
0.7.8-1.olpc2, to bring it up
Hi,
I'm looking for help/volunteers to assist with the integration process
of cerebro [1] into sugar. Cerebro offers a fast and efficient data
transport and collaboration mechanism between tens of XOs in simple
mesh. Using cerebro we can make the simple mesh scale as well as the
current limit
Sounds good, looking forward to seeing Sugar run on it! :-)
One thing I was wondering though, why is it so expensive? $399 really
seems like *a lot* of money for that machine...
Walter Bender schrieb:
> I got my hands on a One2OneMate last night. It is a pretty cool
> machine. The keyboard is fu
On 14.05.2008, at 13:51, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> Sounds good, looking forward to seeing Sugar run on it! :-)
>
> One thing I was wondering though, why is it so expensive? $399
> really seems like *a lot* of money for that machine...
Well, that includes a 5 year warranty on parts and labo
Bert Freudenberg schrieb:
>
> On 14.05.2008, at 13:51, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>
>> Sounds good, looking forward to seeing Sugar run on it! :-)
>>
>> One thing I was wondering though, why is it so expensive? $399 really
>> seems like *a lot* of money for that machine...
>
> Well, that includes
> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install
> compile .pyc files
There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do
not expect to myself be changing Activity code -- but if the OLPC is
supposed to be "easy enough for a kid to program" - *someone*
Has Firefox 3- B5 landed in Joyride? it is much faster starting up than
the FF3B2 we had in the older systems (not to mention immensely better
on memory usage).
- Jim
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:57 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus
Pentagram and myself have been putting effort into solidifying designs
for Sugar Groups. In a first rendition, it shouldn't require much more
than an extension of the invitation framework to support group
invites, and a simple UI for creating a group. I think even without
advanced features such as
Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to
managing UI options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that
in the long run it would be faster to type something like "join write by
Tom" which would have the same effect as many point-and-click actions in
order to joi
> > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August
> > release?
> >
> > Personally I think it's OK. It won't hurt to try to do better if we
> > have time obviously...
>
> Let me clarify. I think activities launch is OK. Stuff like frame
> responsiveness and activity switch
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to managing UI
> options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that in the long run
> it would be faster to type something like "join writ
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * More notifications?
> >
> > How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more feedback?
>
>
> Eben posted about th
Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to managing UI
>> options such as share/join/leave/invite? I would argue that in the long run
>> it would be faster t
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Eben Eliason wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Are there any plans to provide a command-line based interface to
> managing
Hi all,
At the suggestion of Tomeu, I would like to propose the Terminal
activity for inclusion in the Sugar releases.
* Short description of the features.
Provide a simple terminal as a Sugar activity. Should have good
integration with the Sugar shell and cooperate correctly with other
activitie
Hi,
> At the suggestion of Tomeu, I would like to propose the Terminal
> activity for inclusion in the Sugar releases.
>
Good idea, I agree
cheers.
Ed,.
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This is a code review of Guillaume's buddy_search Gadget branch, as taken
from:
https://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/guillaume/gadget;a=shortlog;h=buddy_search
> diff --git a/gadget/component.py b/gadget/component.py
> index 6fcb682..ae1ba16 100644
> --- a/gadget/component.py
> +++ b/gadget/compon
At Wed, 14 May 2008 09:23:16 -0400,
Walter Bender wrote:
>
> I got my hands on a One2OneMate last night. It is a pretty cool
> machine. The keyboard is full, their is a touch screen, built in
> wireless, some expansion slots, etc. It is light, runs quiet and cool.
> It comes with a nice suite of a
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Wade Brainerd wrote:
>> > If we are adding a delay, would it be acceptable to enable the frame
>> > activation along the edges of the screen in addition to the corners?
>>
>> This was why the co
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install
>> compile .pyc files
>
> There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do
> not expect to myself be changing Activity code --
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Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote:
| One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install
| compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not
| use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle forma
Would we be interested in incorporating distance information between
nodes in the mesh view?
One significant advantage that comes with distance information (besides
that we provide a more meaningful network representation to the user) is
that we can also save space by sorting icons around the ce
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