Re: [sugar] composite memory usage [was Re: frame auto-visibility configuration]

2008-09-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd vote for activating composition ASAP once we have a 9.1 joyride branch and see how we can find the sweetest spot between speed and memory

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought which has come up a few times in my exploration of activity switching performance, and a few times in conversations on the sugar list, is that the Journal shouldn't be included in the set of activities which can

Re: [sugar] composite memory usage [was Re: frame auto-visibility configuration]

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think we should first try to debug our graphic performance and see what is slow and if we can do anything about it. Sure, that's the right fix. AFAIK, XComposite wasn't invented to make slow graphics faster.

Re: [sugar] Composition -- we've been here before!

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:45:44PM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote: At least this one has been fixed 4 months ago. Sure. I brought it up because, to me, it serves as a useful reminder of the careful regression test that

Re: [sugar] Congrats to Telepathy

2008-09-25 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 24 septembre 2008 à 19:05 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Congratulations are in order, I think, for the Telepathy developers. Gnome 2.24 was just released, and from Thank you very much. :) Note that we have some plan to make

[sugar] pydocweb regression fixed

2008-09-25 Thread David Farning
The regression in pydocweb is fixed. I will go through the list of docstrings requiring review. Morgs, thanks for all the work on the network strings! thanks david ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] Reviews report

2008-09-25 Thread Release Team
= New requests = Enable simualted accelration in Xephyr http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8619 Bug in WPA key dialog prevents certain passwords from being accepted http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8642 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is that metacity will be hard to upstream patches to, and it would be more work to get working 'right', since it's pretty much designed *not* to be extensible. I tend to think metacity upstream might take

[sugar] memorize-28.xo

2008-09-25 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Tried to install with 763. Something wrong with bundle. Would someone please check this. Thanks, mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] [RELEASE] Write 60

2008-09-25 Thread Morgan Collett
http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/other/Write-60.xo http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/write-activity/Write-60.tar.bz2 NEWS: * #8492 fix crash on buddy left (cassidy) Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] composite memory usage [was Re: frame auto-visibility configuration]

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Garrison
We can file bugs on these issues prior to pushing composite into a build. Please file a ticket and add the tag 'composite', and describe the test setup. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:27:59PM +0100, Eduardo H. Silva wrote: Just to follow-up with trying it, while at first the feeling of using

Re: [sugar] memorize-28.xo

2008-09-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:15, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried to install with 763. Something wrong with bundle. Would someone please check this. Works for me, on 763, downloaded with Browse from Activities/G1G1. Regards Morgan ___

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 09:48:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought which has come up a few times in my exploration of activity switching performance, and a few times in conversations on the sugar list, is that the

[sugar] [RELEASE] [MaMaMedia] Poll Builder, Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle

2008-09-25 Thread Morgan Collett
I've released http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/Poll-18.xo http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/other/JigsawPuzzle-4.xo http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/other/SliderPuzzle-6.xo with the license field added to activity.info, as per #8411, so that these can possibly be included in the

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Robert Myers
Tomeu, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought which has come up a few times in my exploration of activity switching performance, and a few times in conversations on the sugar list, is that the Journal shouldn't be included in the set of activities

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:43:57AM -0400, Robert Myers wrote: Tomeu, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought which has come up a few times in my exploration of activity switching performance, and a few times in conversations on the sugar list,

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.09.2008 um 10:06 schrieb Sameer Verma: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an attempt to make the decision-making process more unbiased (or at least more

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Robert Myers
Tomeu, Continuing down that path, I think that the launcher pane should be treated more as just another activity, and also be on the alt-tab ring. Maybe it should also have an icon on the frame. The launcher pane (or home view, as we call it) is part of the desktop window, that doesn't use

[sugar] [RELEASE] Measure 20

2008-09-25 Thread Arjun Sarwal
20 * Added license information http://dev.laptop.org/~arjs/Measure-20.xo Thanks, Arjun ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
BTW, the spreadsheet is at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p_Xhb6KcXLyEViA50CnCaDghl=en So by that metric, Terminal is the best activity. Huh? Yeah. Do these numbers mean anything? What is the point of averaging unrelated numbers? Averaging lines of code score and usability

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2008-09-22

2008-09-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:49:56 +0200, Karl Ramberg wrote: repeat 4 (forward 100 right 90) right 45 forward sqrt ((100*100) + (100*100)) In Etoys it is pretty straight forward to make this script, look at attached picture. I lost the track of original ideas there, but one could make a

[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar 0.82.9

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
= Source = http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar/sugar-0.82.9.tar.bz2 = Closed tickets = * #7969 Accidental searches lead to a blank Home screen * #8662 xo man jumps around while zooming * #8642 Bug in WPA key dialog prevents certain passwords from being accepted * #8657 Help activity

Re: [sugar] Which to translate: Gulcose82 or Gulcose

2008-09-25 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
2008/9/23 Korakurider [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Korakurider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the spreadsheet is at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p_Xhb6KcXLyEViA50CnCaDghl=en So by that metric, Terminal is the best activity. Huh? Yeah. Do these numbers mean anything? What is the point of

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the spreadsheet is at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p_Xhb6KcXLyEViA50CnCaDghl=en So by that metric, Terminal is the best activity.

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help, Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Sameer, I don't see a lot of support yet (I had to look up innumerate in the dictionary :-) but the Google spreadsheet has been very helpful for me. I like to think I'm not innumerate but I can be obdurate. I hope we keep using it and people can take what they want from it. Each release

[sugar] Please notify me when you change something in the po/ directory

2008-09-25 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello activity authors, Just a reminder that you should try to notify me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) whenever you need to change or you change anything in the po/directory (that includes moving files around). You can usually also catch hold of me on IRC - my nick is unmadindu, and I lurk in #sugar,

Re: [sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

2008-09-25 Thread Robert Myers
Erik, On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:43:57AM -0400, Robert Myers wrote: Tomeu, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought which has come up a few times in my exploration of activity switching performance, and a few times in conversations on the sugar

[sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Here's a set of basic Activity test results for build 8.2-763, hope the ASCI art doesn't get too mangled by the list server (need to view with a fixed width font). The Activities are in no specific order, and sorry if I missed out yours, but I wanted to post today incase it helps with

Re: [sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
It seems that mangling occurred; however, I repaired it and have temporarily published the results here: http://teach.laptop.org/~mstone/gary.txt Michael ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:37:09 -0500, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the spreadsheet is at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p_Xhb6KcXLyEViA50CnCaDghl=en So by that metric, Terminal is the best activity. Huh?

Re: [sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-25 Thread Samuel Klein
Testing gg-763-1 earlier today, running a number of activities for an hour. I later found that I could not restart or reboot via sugar; it would let me select the option from the right menu, but then a gray-circle process appeared in the top frame and nothing would happen. If I quit that process

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:37:09 -0500, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the spreadsheet is at

[sugar] Secrete hidden Home view styles

2008-09-25 Thread Gary C Martin
I was hoping the extra view types would have made it into the new release, but looks like some official decision to hide them has been made. Pitty. I just tested with 50 activities I've been testing, set as favourites, and the only 2 views that are usable are SUNFLOWER_LAYOUT and the less

Re: [sugar] Secrete hidden Home view styles

2008-09-25 Thread Walter Bender
I've not seen Scott's version of the Sunflower layout, but I imagine it is similar to the one I wrote up for the FLOSS manual in the how to modify Sugar chapter. I use it as my default, even on my Ubuntu machine--lovely and efficient. enjoy. -walter On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Gary C

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2008-09-22

2008-09-25 Thread Karl Ramberg
Walter Bender wrote: === Sugar Digest === 1. Trisecting angles: The French mathematician Évariste Galois published three papers in 1830 that laid the foundations of an algebraic proof of why is it not possible to trisect *every* angle in a compass and straightedge construction, something the

[sugar] Examples of FOSS assistive technologies already deployed in the field

2008-09-25 Thread Fernando
Hi everyone, I have been asked to contribute to a publication of the International Telecommunications Union on the topic of low and no-cost assistive technologies, so I am writing to everyone I know in this field asking for examples of local, state, or national governments using FOSS assistive