[Sugar-devel] accessibility

2009-04-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, might be interesting to lurk during this session to learn more about how we'll improve accessibility in Sugar. http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/04/07/webkitgtk-a11y-virtual-hackfest/ Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sug

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.84.5

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.84.5.tar.bz2 == Fixed tickets == * Remove fixed width from speaker palette #719 * Correctly close the input stream in file transfers #682 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] jabber.sugarlabs.org is working

2009-04-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 23:29, Dave Bauer wrote: > I got jabber.sugarlabs.org alias for schoolserver.solutiongrove.com working! Cool, just performed my first file transfer using gabble with it. > I had to assign the hostname in the ejabberd-xs.cfg and add the shared > roster group in the web UI f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] squashfs failure trying to convert SoaS to OLPC XO image format

2009-04-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:03:48PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> Apr 7 17:12:43 localhost kernel: SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor >> mismatch, trying to mount newer 4.0 filesystem Apr 7 17:12:43 >> localhost kernel: SQUASHFS error: Please update your kernel > >> so I suspect a m

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Invitation] Testing SoaS-2 @ Wed Apr 8 10am – 12pm (sugar-de...@lists.sug arlabs.org)

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
Frederick Grose wrote: > sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, you are invited to > > Title: Testing SoaS-2 > Time: Wed Apr 8 10am – 12pm (Timezone: Eastern Time) > Where: irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar-meeting > Calendar: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > Owner/Creator: fgr...@sugarlabs.org > Other atte

[Sugar-devel] [Updated Invitation] Testing S oaS-2 @ Wed Apr 8 10am – 12pm (sugar-devel @lists.sugarlabs.org)

2009-04-08 Thread Frederick Grose
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > If I understand Wade correctly the one of the main purposes(at least) is not > hiding "content" bundles somewhere(for example in Browse's bookmarks) > ..and I see your concern(for what reason we should create new entities > if there are lots of

Re: [Sugar-devel] accessibility

2009-04-08 Thread David Farning
Also, it is starting to look like gnome 2.30 will be released as 3.0. There may be some major changes in store. david On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > might be interesting to lurk during this session to learn more about > how we'll improve accessibility in Sugar. > >

[Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs (was: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral)

2009-04-08 Thread Sascha Silbe
Note: Follow up from a discussion on iaep. On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 08:31:15AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: (At one point, Sascha had helped me include a script that would build the appropriate binaries at install time, but that solution depends upon a build environment be installed, which is no

Re: [Sugar-devel] accessibility

2009-04-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 17:59, David Farning wrote: > Also, it is starting to look like gnome 2.30 will be released as 3.0. > There may be some major changes in store. There are. The gnome/freedesktop guys are moving more and more stuff to non-UI backends, meaning we can reuse more and more code.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unified bundles

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi James, On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM, James Simmons wrote: > Since two of my Activities are referred to by name in your proposal I > suppose I should have an opinion on it, but I don't fully understand the > proposal. I'd definitely like to hear your opinion. Also, please don't interpret th

Re: [Sugar-devel] accessibility

2009-04-08 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 05:24:18 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > might be interesting to lurk during this session to learn more about > how we'll improve accessibility in Sugar. > Some weeks ago I met Andrea Mangiatordi, from the Farfalla Project, who is working with LATU on accessibility issu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> Proposal. >> >> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar >> (in addition to Journal), I propose treat Activities as regular Journal >> objects. > > I'm a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: >>> Proposal. >>> >>> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar >>> (in addition to Journal), I propo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:54:45PM -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > >> Proposal. > >> > >> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar > >> (in addition to Jou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:01:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > > certainly provide a future path for activity versioning, promote the > > creation and modification of activities to be a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:12:17AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > Benefits. > > > > With this scheme accepted user will have unified interface to all > > objects(and theirs versions) - content(generated by activities or > > downloaded from the i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in the Journal) is really exciting to me. To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their Journal entry directory*, not /home/user/Activities. Also, the default Activities should be present in the Journal, whi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs (was: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
I would really like to have an official mechanism for dealing with this, as it's preventing several of my activities from working on SoaS. I used to just include x86 Python 2.5 compiled modules in my bundles, but now we are supporting more architectures. One proposal is to have a build machine wh

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in > the Journal) is really exciting to me. > > To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their > Journal entry directory*,  not /home/user/Activities. Yes

Re: [Sugar-devel] accessibility

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
I've added this topic to 0.86 proposal goals http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Roadmap/0.86#Proposal_Goals -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs

2009-04-08 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:23:22PM -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: One proposal is to have a build machine which supports cross compiling all our supported architectures, which can compile the blobs. Then we include all the blobs inside the .xo bundle. This is like what OSX does with Application b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs (was: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral)

2009-04-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.04.2009, at 21:23, Wade Brainerd wrote: > I would really like to have an official mechanism for dealing with > this, as it's preventing several of my activities from working on > SoaS. > > I used to just include x86 Python 2.5 compiled modules in my bundles, > but now we are supporting more

Re: [Sugar-devel] Binary Blobs

2009-04-08 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:18:37PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: One way to do this is to simply append the config.guess output, which would result in lib-i686-pc-linux-gnu on my box ... That's a good start (and even more than my PoC code for TA does), but not enough. Unfortunately code comp

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unified bundles

2009-04-08 Thread James Simmons
Wade, Thanks for your response. It clears up a lot now that I have a better idea of the purpose of Unified bundles. There is still one question I have, which is what becomes of Activities in this scenario? For instance, if you have a bundle containing a PDF, what happens to the Read activit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Gary C Martin
On 8 Apr 2009, at 20:17, Wade Brainerd wrote: > The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in > the Journal) is really exciting to me. Yes, it's a right old lucky dip mess for what you find in Journal for Activity bundles just now. Old bundle versions that you're not sure

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unified bundles

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
Good question.. My proposal is that activities which don't allow the creation of brand new content (e.g. they require some initial content to be used) become Content Viewers which is a special case of Activity. As it stands, I'm not sure whether they need to be merged into Sugar or whether they ca

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
Wow, you're right- the entire Activity List View is no longer needed! Activities can be erased, starred and tagged from the Journal just like any other entry. The Journal icon can move over into the upper right hand corner of the Home view, taking the List View icon's place. That reinforces the n

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] squashfs failure trying to convert SoaS to OLPC XO image format

2009-04-08 Thread Dan Krejsa
Hi Chris & Martin, Thanks for the info! Martin, have you worked with the latest Soas2-*.iso images? Is it possible that the version of squashfs used to create the image was raised recently? My kernel is presently at 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686. I'll probably either look for a fedora 11 host t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] squashfs failure trying to convert SoaS to OLPC XO image format

2009-04-08 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Dan, > Is it possible that the version of squashfs used to create > the image was raised recently? My kernel is presently at > 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686. Yes, that's the problem. "yum install kernel squashfs-tools" and a reboot should fix it. - Chris. -- Chris Ball _