[Sugar-devel] Mago announced

2009-06-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/mago-a-desktop-testing-initiative/ Once we switch unnecessary usage of hippo and add some hooks to it, we'll be able to use the same infrastructure. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:23, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: > Thanks for all the input. > I got the icons ready but now I've found some bugs on the new > buttons I coded. I would rather fix them before committing but > maybe it's better to let everyone see what I'm doing. With this > activity, bugs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread James Simmons
Chirag, I still haven't run your code, but I did take a good look at it. I expected it to look quite a bit like the code I and Aleksey Lim came up with for Read Etexts. I was surprised to find that it didn't, but parts of it did look familiar to me because it looks like you're trying an appr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:48:41PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> The code uses espeak synthesis as backend.  Languages supported are here >> (linking to a page on how to contribute additi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >>On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jain wrote: >>> A basic speech configuration manager has also been implement

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jain wrote: >> A basic speech configuration manager has also been implemented to >> alter the volume, pitch and rate of the speech. > >Will

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jain wrote: > Hi, > > I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis > > As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and > karoke style coloring of the te

[Sugar-devel] French Help Activity

2009-06-11 Thread LASKE, Lionel (C2S)
Hi all, As you probably know, OLPC France has launch a French FLOSS Manual Sprint until the June 21th. I'm proud to announce that a large part of the work has already be done. More, thanks again to Adam Hyde, we have now a way to print the manual in French using the basic skin (http://translat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread James Simmons
Chirag, I won't be able to try out your code for awhile, but I did look at it and noticed that while you refer to it as an "activity" it is not in fact packaged as an "Activity". Even if you intend for this code to wind up being a part of Sugar itself, there is no reason you couldn't make it

Re: [Sugar-devel] upstream AMO update (ASLO)

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:29:23PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: > Josh, > > I've uploaded new AMO to http://activities-devel.sugarlabs.org/ > could you update sugar.css And I think we'll have to restore "within" box in search bar because new AMO can search only in addons or in collections not in bot

Re: [Sugar-devel] upstream AMO update (ASLO)

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Josh, I've uploaded new AMO to http://activities-devel.sugarlabs.org/ could you update sugar.css For v2 I did something wrong with rebasing from upstream code and had to recreate slo-activities repo. `git pull` won't work in your local git repo so, you'll have to re-`git clone` it On Tue, Jun 09

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
I really like "Basics"... it is concise, and will be reassuring to teachers I think. Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 11.06.2009, at 15:17, Walter Bender wrote: > >> Maybe "Getting Started" might be a better name? > > How about "Basics"? > > - Bert - > >> Just

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.06.2009, at 15:17, Walter Bender wrote: > Maybe "Getting Started" might be a better name? How about "Basics"? - Bert - > Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration > on IRC. It is another theme people may be interested in searching. > Activities that a whole clas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Walter Bender
Maybe "Getting Started" might be a better name? Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration on IRC. It is another theme people may be interested in searching. Activities that a whole class can share, e.g., Browse, and activities that are designed as "duets". -walter On T

[Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread chirag jain
Hi, I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and karoke style coloring of the text. A basic speech configuration manager has also been implemented

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
A useful distinction. And, many teachers organize tasks for their students in pairs, too. Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > Maybe "Getting Started" might be a better name? > > Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration > on IRC. It is another

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-11 Thread Faisal Sadeq Khan
+1 Ring of dots Best wishes. Faisal -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) "Opening new opportunities to children the world over." http://laptop.org/en/vision 2009/6/10 Bastien > Sean DALY writes: > > > Ring of Dots > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#XO_Sugar_Boot_With_Ov

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-11 Thread Steven M. Parrish
+1 for the ring > We are on a tight schedule for the SoaS LinuxTag release and following > the mega-thread on the subject we have narrowed the choice down to two > variants: > > Progress Bar > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Animation_of_Eben.27s >_Above_Design > > Ring of Do

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:01:27PM -0400, Bobby Powers wrote: >On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Martin >Langhoff wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Lucian >> Branescu wrote: >>> I don't think I have the results anymore, but benches between

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-11 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Lucian > Branescu wrote: >> I don't think I have the results anymore, but benches between >> epiphany-webkit and epiphany-gecko were very similar. > > Lucian -- what Jonas and I are trying to say is: even if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Over 50 responses on this thread :D But we are advancing I think :-) Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> > I actually don't think it's that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 16:22, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote: > >> Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. >> >> We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media >> push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important. >> >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jun 2009, at 14:10, Sean DALY wrote: > Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. > > We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media > push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important. > > I'm afraid "Fructose" as a left-hand category on ASLO is ob

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fructose activities (was Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Basically calling Fructose "demo activities" was just a way to chicken > out. Nobody wanted to impose a fixed set of activities on anyone, or > label non-Fructose activities as less important. All the long-timers > still understand that this is the basic set of activ

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > > I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...] > > 27 messages in this thread: > http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html 20 comments on this ti

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...] 27 messages in this thread: http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html > thanks > > Sean Martin pgpokorRHRZMh.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jun 2009, at 08:37, Aleksey Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > Let me finalize this "What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/ > etc" > discussion :) > > New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections > > I think we ca

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
David - do you have a list, or a link to same? thanks Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM, David Van Assche wrote: > I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at > the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively > bug free, and fun. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Bert - many thanks, I understand much better now. We're expecting a traffic peaks at the end of the month with our media push, that's why this work on clarity/simplicity is important. I'm afraid "Fructose" as a left-hand category on ASLO is obscure, it really should be "base" or "core" or "base i

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread David Van Assche
I recommend u take a look at the openSUSE offering. I took a careful look at the activities available and packaged those that seemed useful, relatively bug free, and fun. I think we have about 55 activities now. kind Regards, David (nubae) Van Assche On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM, James Simmons

[Sugar-devel] sugar collaboration session June 10th report

2009-06-11 Thread David Van Assche
Hi, I've published the report for our collaboration session which took place June 10th 2009. Please leave your comments, especially those who took part. http://www.nubae.com/collaboration-session-sugar-june10 thanks, David (nubae) Van Assche ___ Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread David Farning
These are not easy issues. Fedora had the core - extras dichotomy for 6 iterations before they combined the two. I think this was because, at first, there was a significant difference in quality between the two groups. As time past and the entire project matured, it become more work deciding and

[Sugar-devel] Fructose activities (was Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.06.2009, at 10:55, Sean DALY wrote: > I guess I'm confused because for me, a "set of demo Activities" is not > at all the same thing as "baseline Activities included in every Sugar > deployment". Basically calling Fructose "demo activities" was just a way to chicken out. Nobody wanted to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.06.2009, at 09:51, Sean DALY wrote: > ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to > every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? > > Browse > Read > Write > etc. At least the Fructose activities should always be there: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:55:51AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > I guess I'm confused because for me, a "set of demo Activities" is not > at all the same thing as "baseline Activities included in every Sugar > deployment". I agree they're not exactly the same, but I think that's probably because "base

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
hmmm thanks Martin for that I guess I'm confused because for me, a "set of demo Activities" is not at all the same thing as "baseline Activities included in every Sugar deployment". I mean, to demonstrate online collaboration, I could choose a fancier or more advanced Activity than might be on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:29:25PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: >>I meant the code. I really don't have time, but someone could do a >>benchmark since there is code for Browse-webkit. As rough as it may >>be. > > Ahh, I get it now .-) > > >>Firefox is still way behind, especially on embedded dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] LWN article

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:17:36AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > > [Re: ttp://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/336910/3878a88c0c27f977/ ] > [...] > A very key point to me is the essential "critical thinking" issue. In > ten years or so there will be thousands of young adults who started > out with Sugar who will

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:51:24AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to > every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? This is "Fructose": http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities If you keep asking

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? Browse Read Write etc. Sean On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 10 Jun 2009, at 18:24, James Simmons wrote: > >> Martin, >> >> I phrased that poorly.  A kid migh

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Let me finalize this "What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/etc" discussion :) New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections I think we can move tags GCompris and Fructose(Core, etc) to collections moreo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] LWN article

2009-06-11 Thread Sean DALY
Yes, a wonderful interview Walter! It's rare that a journalist quotes so much of what an interviewee says; it's a sign that the Sugar Labs education message is unusual and deserves to be heard. A very key point to me is the essential "critical thinking" issue. In ten years or so there will be tho