[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar-toolkit has been branched

2010-07-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, sugar-toolkit has now a sucrose-0.88 [1] branch for backporting fixes intended for future releases in the 0.88.x series. Unstable development leading to 0.90 will happen in master [2]. Regards, Simon [1] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/logs/sucrose-0.88

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patches to mail list, or patches to trac?

2010-07-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/05/2010 02:47 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On 07/01/2010 08:32 PM, Gary Martin wrote: Hi folks, Just wanted to ask the obvious question. Patches to mail list, or patches to trac? About acceptance, the current process is in place until its wiki page is changed:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Write-70

2010-07-06 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4201 Sugar Platform: 0.86 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26971/write-70.xo Release notes: Fix startup zoom

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update

2010-07-06 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 11:57:42AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:37 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: But you can do the same with Gtk+, cannot you? This signal is emitted when the Return or Enter key is pressed or the line edit loses focus No, GTK does not seem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:57, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:37 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: But you can do the same with Gtk+, cannot you? This signal is emitted when the Return or Enter key is pressed or the line edit loses focus No, GTK does not seem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update

2010-07-06 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:57, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:37 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: But you can do the same with Gtk+, cannot you? This signal is emitted when the Return or Enter

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update

2010-07-06 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 07:30:52PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: [...] and as far as I can tell a metadata update could be deferred until changed plus a delta time, or focus-out, whichever occurs first. This is what I mean: untested. I also think the metadata update should be avoided if there is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity title update

2010-07-06 Thread James Cameron
And, for what it is worth, Sugar 0.84 only connects the focus-out-event, it doesn't connect changed. Also, it avoids a save if the name is unchanged. src/sugar/activity/activity.py ActivityToolbar -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add config.py.in and update AC_CONFIG_FILES.

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 06:14, Andrés Ambrois andresambr...@gmail.com wrote: config.py is generated from config.py.in at configure time by autoconf, so it needs to be added to AC_CONFIG_FILES in configure.ac. Signed-off-by: Andrés Ambrois andresambr...@gmail.com  create mode 100644

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Using providers database for 3G modem configuration

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, anybody has input on this proposed feature? http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1630 http://people.collabora.co.uk/~tomeu/providers_database.png Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Show Country/Provider/Plan comboboxes if DB exists.

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 06:14, Andrés Ambrois andresambr...@gmail.com wrote: Display comboboxes for selecting a data plan for each country and provider if the mobile-broadband-providers-info package is installed. Populate the connection parameters with the info from the selected data plan.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Using providers database for 3G modem configuration

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:29, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: Hi, anybody has input on this proposed feature? http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1630

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Fwd: [Bugs] #1747 UNSP: Default sugar-emulator window size does not follow HIG

2010-07-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this ticket raises the question of how the layout section in the HIG should be interpreted/modified for screens with different proportions than that of the XO-1. Regards, Tomeu -- Forwarded message -- From: Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Date: Tue, Feb

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patches to mail list, or patches to trac?

2010-07-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
I was thinking that google groups deals great with two views on the same discussion (forum-like comments and ml). Could something like that be done for trac? Would it be a good idea? On 6 July 2010 09:07, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/05/2010 02:47 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Using providers database for 3G modem configuration

2010-07-06 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
This is just a small aesthetic side-note, but it would look better if the country/provider/plan text was right-aligned like the labels below, and if the description above (You will need to provide ...) spanned the entire width of the window. Otherwise this looks great! Christian On Tue, Jul 6,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Fwd: [Bugs] #1747 UNSP: Default sugar-emulator window size does not follow HIG

2010-07-06 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Why not use sugar-emulator -f option in terminal (full screen mode)? Tom Gilliard satellit Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, this ticket raises the question of how the layout section in the HIG should be interpreted/modified for screens with different proportions than that of the XO-1. Regards,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add models for detecting and parsing

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
from jarabe.model.network import GSM_USERNAME_PATH, GSM_PASSWORD_PATH, \ GSM_NUMBER_PATH, GSM_APN_PATH, GSM_PIN_PATH, \ GSM_PUK_PATH +from cpsection.modemconfiguration.config import PROVIDERS_PATH, \ +

[Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:20 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Sorry about the confusion, these questions were about the move from xo bundles to packages :( Ah! Communication FAIL! :) Ok, I think the requirements for activity bundles could be: 1) Support multiple CPU architectures 2) Support

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 07/06/2010 11:51 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Ok, I think the requirements for activity bundles could be: 1) Support multiple CPU architectures 2) Support multiple distros (and different versions of same distro) 3) Centralized build cluster (submit one source package, get multiple

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 08:22 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On 3 July 2010 16:52, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I checked: olpc-update-query only sets the clock if it's off by more than 24hours, so it cannot serve as a replacement for ntpdate. What's the requirement for

Re: [Sugar-devel] UI experiments: pop-up menus and hot corners

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Err, we've dropped sugar-devel off the cc list again :-) On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 10:37 -0400, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: We are looking to schedule a design meeting next Saturday (July 10), at 10:30am EST (2:30 UTC/GMT). We'll be reviewing designs for the proposed Start new/Resume

Re: [Sugar-devel] Schoolserver security

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Thu, 01-07-2010 a las 20:55 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió: Child connects to a network, perhaps just to go online outside of school. The network has an XS. The laptop registers. The journal is backed up to the server.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 10:10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Laptops with anti-theft enabled can get the time from the OATS server when it's off by more than 24 hours. Unlocked laptops don't have a way to synchronize the time at all. All we need to fix it is a trivial shell script. Why

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:50 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without elevated permissions. Enhancing deb or rpm to be able to do this would be a win all around. Yes, it's been in the To Do list for dpkg and rpm for as long as

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release StarChart-12

2010-07-06 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4300 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26976/starchart-12.xo Release notes: Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:51:00AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 16:20 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Sorry about the confusion, these questions were about the move from xo bundles to packages :( Ah! Communication FAIL! :) Ok, I think the requirements for activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:02 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without elevated permissions. XO and SoaS distributions are configured for sudo with no password. Rainbow has been bit-rotting for the past 2 years and nobody

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 11:21 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: I think it's fine that individual deployments can do it. But it shouldn't be done globally because it weakens the security system. Which security system, the theft deterrence? Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Likely so, but the software should be able to compensate for it. After discussing it on IRC, it seems that olpc-update-query should automatically update the clock from the OATS server. Do _not_ rely on this for accurate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 19:56 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Just to mention how it could look like on high level http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Zero_Sugar#How_it_works_at_a_glance Will it also remove the need to ship fat bundles, as we do now? I mean, will it produce separate packages

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 15:03, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it to the point of being useless. Who would bother to setup a fake DHCP, DNS and NTP server when it takes 20 seconds to crack it from the console? :-) Right. So with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:36 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On 6 July 2010 15:03, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it to the point of being useless. Who would bother to setup a fake DHCP, DNS and NTP server when it takes 20

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:59:04PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 19:56 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Just to mention how it could look like on high level http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Zero_Sugar#How_it_works_at_a_glance Will it also remove the need to ship

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
Bernie wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:02 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without elevated permissions. XO and SoaS distributions are configured for sudo with no password. Yes. However, Uruguay does not maintain this

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-5

2010-07-06 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4193 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26977/physics-5.xo Release notes: - Added support for new toolbar design for Sugar 0.86 (old toolbars still work for Sugar 0.84 and back) -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:03:02PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: PS: I just found yet another laptop which won't activate because the clock was set to 15 July 2000 (not 2010!). Do you see many of these? just a query as I dont know the details of activation: if the rtc is off by a year or more