Re: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 20:15, Esteban Arias wrote: > no, I tested with gnome desktop. Ok, I can help you get in touch with the GNOME team that works on accessibility if you want. They are very dedicated, friendly and talented bunch. Collabora and other companies also provide services related to a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 03:05 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get >> some discussions started on what changes need to be made to Sugar to work >> well in an environment whe

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] giving feedback when a transfer finishes (was Re: #2111 NORM: File Transfer don't work: the transfer never finish)

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 03:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > Daniel from Uruguay has valuable feedback about the file transfer > functionality. > > How can we make it clearer that a transfer has completed? Or maybe we > don't need to show anything at all and just remove silently the icon > from the frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 03:40 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get >>> some discussions started on what c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 09/06/2010 03:40 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Daniel Drake  wrote: >>> >>> On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer >>>  wrote: Hi, I just created a new ticket (http://

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 09:00 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from chm's message of Mon Sep 06 18:51:56 +0200 2010: > >>> FWIW you can hold while clicking on the activity to start a new >>> instance instead of resuming the most recent one. >> >> Thanks for the tip. The resume sessions by default >> see

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 09:10 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Mon Sep 06 18:24:44 +0200 2010: > Actually I'm surprised it isn't already in Browse. We could add a new Palette (with some "location" / URI related icon) containing reload and go-home. Both are

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Error/Warning Icons for alerts

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 09:25 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I came across the issue when working on "Error messages when writing to >> device (Journal) [1]": Our alerts (e.g. "Connecting to the school server", >> the error message when you can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/07/2010 01:33 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > d...@laptop.org said: >> When we discussed this while I was in Peru, one requirement they identified >> is that the kid would log onto an XO one day and do some work, and then log >> onto another XO the following week and continue the same work. > >> As

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-0.84] journal scan of external media

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 05:03, James Cameron wrote: > I've noticed that on Sugar 0.84 at least, inserting external media such > as a USB HDD, flash drive, or SD card with an entire operating system on > it is an unpleasant experience: > > 1.  the progress bar stutters; does not smoothly update, > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Patch to display 'Sugar inside Xephyr' instead of 'Xephyr on' in the title bar. Ticket #2285

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 18:12, Ishan Bansal wrote: > This patch is to display 'Sugar inside Xephyr' instead of 'Xephyr on' in the > title bar of the sugar windows. > --- >  sugar-0.88-0.88.1/src/jarabe/util/emulator.py |    1 + >  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Build Squeak VM 4.0.3 from tarfile

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 13:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 03.09.2010, at 10:47, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 00:10, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>> This is almost the same as my patch from April, which never made it in. >>> Instead of building from the outdated "olpc" subversion

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-0.84] journal scan of external media

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Tue Sep 07 05:03:40 +0200 2010: > The code may as well have just recursed right where it was; with this > number of idle tasks there's very little point in using idle tasks. Agreed. I wonder if we could somehow wrap os.walk() in a single, low-priority idle

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Increase timeout for buddy properties queries #2298

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso --- src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py | 15 --- 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py index 9ec6322..a457ff7 100644 --- a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py +++ b/s

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch review request for ticket #2290

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Marco Pesenti Gritti's message of Tue Sep 07 01:29:30 +0200 2010: > So many reasons to move to introspection :) Then someone should get started on packaging the introspection stuff for Debian, Ubuntu and if necessary Fedora (the distributions supported by sugar-jhbuild). :-P ;) Sas

Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch review request for ticket #2290

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 13:53, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Marco Pesenti Gritti's message of Tue Sep 07 01:29:30 +0200 > 2010: > >> So many reasons to move to introspection :) > > Then someone should get started on packaging the introspection stuff > for Debian, Ubuntu and if necessary Fed

[Sugar-devel] Introspection packages (was: Re: Patch review request for ticket #2290)

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 14:01:38 +0200 2010: > > Then someone should get started on packaging the introspection stuff > > for Debian, Ubuntu and if necessary Fedora (the distributions supported > > by sugar-jhbuild). :-P ;) > I'm not too worried about it being packaged i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Increase timeout for buddy properties queries #2298

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 13:40:28 +0200 2010: > Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso A long description would be nice. The docstring from your patch would do fine. > +_QUERY_DBUS_TIMEOUT = 200 200 seconds (over 3 minutes) is a really long time for updating the Neighborhood. I'

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Build Squeak VM 4.0.3 from tarfile

2010-09-07 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 13:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> >> On 03.09.2010, at 10:47, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 00:10, Bert Freudenberg wrote: This is almost the same as my patch from April, which never made it in.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introspection packages (was: Re: Patch review request for ticket #2290)

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 14:48, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 14:01:38 +0200 2010: > >> > Then someone should get started on packaging the introspection stuff >> > for Debian, Ubuntu and if necessary Fedora (the distributions supported >> > by sugar-jhbuild

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Increase timeout for buddy properties queries #2298

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 14:55, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 13:40:28 +0200 2010: > >> Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso > > A long description would be nice. The docstring from your patch would do > fine. Ok. >> +_QUERY_DBUS_TIMEOUT = 200 > > 200 seconds (ov

Re: [Sugar-devel] known issues with collaboration in XS 0.5.2

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:27, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 19:48, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> I have a local XS 0.6 that is working fine but I'm finding that the XS >>> 0.5.2 at jabber.sugarlabs.org is not returning some resu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introspection packages (was: Re: Patch review request for ticket #2290)

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 15:30:53 +0200 2010: > Sorry for not being clear, what I meant is that GNOME Shell is stated > for inclusion in GNOME 2.34 and that it's going to require a fairly > updated stack, including introspection. I expect major distros that > have a time-

Re: [Sugar-devel] known issues with collaboration in XS 0.5.2

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > With the script attached, some GetProperties queries take a few > seconds, others more than 25 seconds (the default dbus timeout). It > should be invoked like this: dbus-launch --exit-with-session python > gabble_test.py Hmmm, great that we h

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introspection packages (was: Re: Patch review request for ticket #2290)

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 17:13, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 15:30:53 +0200 2010: > >> Sorry for not being clear, what I meant is that GNOME Shell is stated >> for inclusion in GNOME 2.34 and that it's going to require a fairly >> updated stack, including

Re: [Sugar-devel] Introspection packages (was: Re: Patch review request for ticket #2290)

2010-09-07 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 17:13, Sascha Silbe > wrote: >> Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 15:30:53 +0200 2010: >> >>> Sorry for not being clear, what I meant is that GNOME Shell is stated >>> for inclusion in GNOME 2.34 and th

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Update the versions of our telepathy dependencies and add mission control #2228

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso --- config/modulesets/glucose-external.modules | 35 ++- config/modulesets/glucose.modules |1 + config/sysdeps/50debian-unstable.xml |4 --- config/sysdeps/50ubuntu-10.04.xml |4 --- config/sysdeps/debian-f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Update the versions of our telepathy dependencies and add mission control #2228

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 19:39, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso This has been tested only in Fedora 13, further testing appreciated. Will be sending a patch for adding specific Fedora versions after this lands. Thanks, Tomeu > --- >  config/modulesets/glucose-external.modules

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Display 'Sugar in a window' instead of 'Xephyr on'. Ticket #2285

2010-09-07 Thread Ishan Bansal
Changed title displayed in the title bar of the sugar-emulator. --- src/jarabe/util/emulator.py |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/util/emulator.py b/src/jarabe/util/emulator.py index 5a99dbe..c16680f 100644 --- a/src/jarabe/util/emulator.py +++ b

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-07 Thread Dipankar Patro
Registration with the school server is currently done synchronously. To prevent the UI from hanging indefinitely, if the school server is reachable but unresponsive, we add an explicit timeout. --- src/jarabe/desktop/schoolserver.py | 19 --- 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 3

Re: [Sugar-devel] [laptop-accessibility] screenreader for sugar

2010-09-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[forwarding kind email from Peter Korn, will reply myself tomorrow morning] On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 18:32, Peter Korn wrote: > > Hi Tomeu, gang, > > [I'm cc-ing Joanie Diggs, co-maintainer of Orca] > > I believe there are 6 key things that need to be done in/for Sugar to enable > use of the GNOME

[Sugar-devel] SL bug #1520

2010-09-07 Thread Mukul Gupta
Team, I am working on Bug # 1520 on sugarlabs. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1520 I tried to reproduce the issue on sugar-emulator. I realised that Alt + Tab did nothing. Instead, Alt+Tab functioned for GNOME. I tried to run sugar from sugar-session. Still, Alt+ Tab did nothing. Firstly, I woul

Re: [Sugar-devel] xo colors & gradients

2010-09-07 Thread Erik Blankinship
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Gary Martin wrote: > I don't think I've seen any activity icons try this yet, but it might work > for some specific cases if it's not used to try and make 3d style shaded > button icons. > > The sample activity icon with a graident I put on the almanac causes the

Re: [Sugar-devel] loading ttf fonts in a sugar activity

2010-09-07 Thread Erik Blankinship
Thanks Tomeu. The results look great. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 21:20, Erik Blankinship > wrote: > > I am wondering if there is a sugar activity which loads in custom ttf > fonts? > > The almanac does not provide an example > > > http://wiki.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Dipankar Patro's message of Tue Sep 07 19:44:17 +0200 2010: > +class TimeoutHTTP(httplib.HTTP): > + def __init__(self, host='', port=None, strict=None, > timeout=socket._GLOBAL_DEFAULT_TIMEOUT): Line too long (> 80 chars). I don't think you'll ever get passed timeout as a paramet

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Display 'Sugar in a window' instead of 'Xephyr on'. Ticket #2285

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Ishan Bansal's message of Tue Sep 07 19:43:24 +0200 2010: > Changed title displayed in the title bar of the sugar-emulator. "Changed" isn't very useful on it's own. Please say what changed (i.e. a slightly more elaborative version of your subject) and why. > +cmd.append('-title

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Update the versions of our telepathy dependencies and add mission control #2228

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 19:39:55 +0200 2010: > Signed-off-by: Tomeu Vizoso I've done some corrections locally: > +version="0.9.16" > +module="telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.9.16.tar.gz" > +size="2900705" md5sum="7f2ab9256a6202

Re: [Sugar-devel] [laptop-accessibility] screenreader for sugar

2010-09-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Tue Sep 07 19:49:30 +0200 2010: > [forwarding kind email from Peter Korn, will reply myself tomorrow morning] > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 18:32, Peter Korn wrote: Peter, I've added you as a list subscriber with disabled delivery, so you should be able to p

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shutdown and Logout menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (SL#2151)

2010-09-07 Thread Anurag Chowdhury
Shutdown (and Logout) menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (or provide some other visual feedback, perhaps dimming/locking the UI from use). --- buddymenu.py |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/buddymenu.py b/buddymenu.py index 0ba6cc1..4e7f501 100644

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 09:21:06PM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > >> Go-home would be the button I press most often, to counteract > auto-resuming. > > > FWIW you can hold while clicking on the activity to start a new > > instance instead of resuming the most recent one. > > Neat/thanks. > > Wher

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Pukllanapac-3

2010-09-07 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4320 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27010/pukllanapac-3.xo Release notes: * added card rotation Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Shutdown and Logout menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (SL#2151)

2010-09-07 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 08:10:27AM +0530, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: > Shutdown (and Logout) menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (or > provide some other visual feedback, perhaps dimming/locking the UI > from use). You mean the busy cursor. I've tried the patch you proposed. It doesn't work

Re: [Sugar-devel] xo colors & gradients

2010-09-07 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Erik, On 7 Sep 2010, at 19:01, Erik Blankinship wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Gary Martin > wrote: > I don't think I've seen any activity icons try this yet, but it might work > for some specific cases if it's not used to try and make 3d style shaded > button icons. > > > T